Car park charges - Page 2

garinda · 14-07-2011, 16:56

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

You ever thought of writing council reports?

Sorry.

I can't polish them.

Only pop a cherry on top.

Ken Moss · 14-07-2011, 17:04

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Originally Posted by garinda

Sorry.

I can't polish them.

Only pop a cherry on 'em.

You could always help out your local county councillor with his election material? He'll more than likely be needing some literary support for the county elections in 2013. Conseravtive literature that I have seen in the past has been so poor that even a polish or a cherry on top wouldn't improve matters.

Or even having a lolly stick poking out of it on Blackpool beach.

lancsdave · 14-07-2011, 17:06

The council must be missing out on millions when you consider the car parks are always so full people have to go to Blackburn to park

jaysay · 14-07-2011, 17:16

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Originally Posted by gynn

Back to the thread, Hyndburn Council has got itself into a situation where, politically, anybody proposing the introduction of car parking charges is committing political suicide.

In effect, it is a hidden subsidy that the Council makes for the benefit of town centre businesses. There is nothing wrong with that, and it may be a laudable policy to have. However, it comes at a cost, which should always be included the council's accounts, and also in any list of potential budget savings, so it can fairly be judged against other Council priorities.

I think I'm right in saying that it isn't currently shown as a cost in the accounts.

The Tories promised back in 2000 when they took control of HBC that there would be no parking charges implemented during their administration, something they campaigned on together with the Accrington Observer, its pleasing to know that this will carry on under the new administration. The only problem I could foresee is if the council decided to sell the covenant of the Arndale Centre which would mean there would have no say in charges being introduced if this were to happen

Ken Moss · 14-07-2011, 17:17

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Originally Posted by jaysay

The Tories promised back in 2000 when they took control of HBC that there would be no parking charges implemented during their administration, something they campaigned on together with the Accrington Observer, its pleasing to know that this will carry on under the new administration. The only problem I could foresee is if the council decided to sell the covenant of the Arndale Centre which would mean there would have no say in charges being introduced if this were to happen

See post #1.

garinda · 14-07-2011, 17:24

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

You could always help out your local county councillor with his election material? He'll more than likely be needing some literary support for the county elections in 2013. Conseravtive literature that I have seen in the past has been so poor that even a polish or a cherry on top wouldn't improve matters.

Or even having a lolly stick poking out of it on Blackpool beach.

I've publicly offered my services.

Even offering cut price rates, for those living on reduced means.

I'm all heart.

Give, give, give.

Neil · 14-07-2011, 19:08

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Originally Posted by gynn

I think I'm right in saying that it isn't currently shown as a cost in the accounts.

How can free parking be a cost?
I can see it could be classed as lost income but not a cost.

Retlaw · 14-07-2011, 19:14

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Originally Posted by gynn

Back to the thread, Hyndburn Council has got itself into a situation where, politically, anybody proposing the introduction of car parking charges is committing political suicide.

In effect, it is a hidden subsidy that the Council makes for the benefit of town centre businesses. There is nothing wrong with that, and it may be a laudable policy to have. However, it comes at a cost, which should always be included the council's accounts, and also in any list of potential budget savings, so it can fairly be judged against other Council priorities.

I think I'm right in saying that it isn't currently shown as a cost in the accounts.

Whether the land is used for carparking or just left vacant, whats the difference, other than its more use as car parks, some keep quoting council owned land, wrong, the land is owned by the people of Accrington, the present people in britcliffe palace are just the caretakers.
Now that britcliffes gone, & it need no longer be called britcliffe palace, maybe it should be renamed, how about Tonka Town Towers.
Retlaw

gynn · 14-07-2011, 20:15

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Originally Posted by Neil

How can free parking be a cost?
I can see it could be classed as lost income but not a cost.

To a Council looking for millions of pounds of budget savings, lost income is a cost.

lancsdave · 14-07-2011, 20:36

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Originally Posted by gynn

To a Council looking for millions of pounds of budget savings, lost income is a cost.

I might try that one with the taxman when I submit my accounts, I should be turning over 20 million but fell short this year, so my lost income is a cost

Surely the only cost is if there is a maintenance issue.

garinda · 14-07-2011, 21:24

If you're going to argue that free car parking should somehow be recorded as a loss of income, the same could be said of the health service, and state education.

We've already paid for 'free' parking.

I guess we're just lucky that in Hyndburn we don't have to pay for it twice over.

Perhaps some numpties would like to see tolls imposed to use every street and road, because not to do so means it's a' loss of income' from government coffers.

Neil · 14-07-2011, 21:31

I dont agree with local councils (or anyone) charging you to park on a street you have paid road tax to use. Hyndburn have got it right and its about time on street parking charges were banned. Charging to park on a car park is a different matter and it is really good its free in Accy.

cashman · 14-07-2011, 21:51

That neil is a damn good point.

garinda · 14-07-2011, 21:53

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Originally Posted by Neil

I dont agree with local councils (or anyone) charging you to park on a street you have paid road tax to use. Hyndburn have got it right and its about time on street parking charges were banned. Charging to park on a car park is a different matter and it is really good its free in Accy.

No Neil, we'll have to accept it.

We haven't already paid for the privilege.

It's a free gift, and therefore should be costed as a loss of income, that we're not charged for it twice.

It's the same with fresh air.

We should be charged for using it.

Not to do so should be recorded as a loss.

gynn · 15-07-2011, 07:16

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Originally Posted by garinda

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It's the same with fresh air.

We should be charged for using it.

Not to do so should be recorded as a loss.

I'm sure there are some Councils up and down the land who would, if they could.

With car parking, most Councils charge. Hyndburn don't. It is a clear decision not to have income that they could have, so to balance the books they have to look at cost reductions or income generation elsewhere in the budget.