Car park charges

Ken Moss · 14-07-2011, 15:18

At the Cabinet meeting on 13th July, the hoary old chestnut of car parking charges was once again brought up in a somewhat tenuous way by Cllr Britcliffe who used several arguments to intimate that Labour are preparing a back door to bring in this policy across Hyndburn.

The Leader of the Council stated categorically that Labour will not introduce car parking charges in this borough at any time, nor will it be selling off the covenant which prevents The Arndale Centre from charging shoppers to park and Peter Britcliffe congratulated himself on managing to pin down Miles Parkinson to an answer that has already been given publicly several times over the years.

This tired old piece of Conservative propoganda has been doing the rounds since 1999 following an off the cuff remark by George Slynn, something that has never seriously been considered or taken further as an idea. If that's the best they can keep trotting out against the new administration then it shows a remarkable lack of ideas. Miles has publicly given a definitive line when asked if Labour can guarantee that no charges will be introduced for parking, something which will be minuted for all time.

I wonder if that will be the end of the scaremongering or whether Cllr Britcliffe cannot take 'yes' for an answer and it will once again appear on Conservative election literature in the coming years?

I commend this thread for the Accyweb archivist to remind us of next May.....

garinda · 14-07-2011, 15:39

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

I commend this thread for the Accyweb archivist to remind us of next May.....

Thanks for your help, but there was really no need.

It's been stored at the archive facility between 'Calendars', and 'Pensioners' pre-election seaside special'.

Ken Moss · 14-07-2011, 15:46

Speaking of which, be a sport and show us your calendar's behind.

I know you said you'd limit scans to one per year but those of us who don't love within the Oswaldtwistle city limits are being deprived of Toby Jug Monthly (Jul-Dec 2011 edition) thanks to those pesky Labour councillors.

Share the joy?

garinda · 14-07-2011, 15:54

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Speaking of which, be a sport and show us your calendar's behind.

I know you said you'd limit scans to one per year but those of us who don't love within the Oswaldtwistle city limits are being deprived of Toby Jug Monthly (Jul-Dec 2011 edition) thanks to those pesky Labour councillors.

Share the joy?

I bet you were a pain as a kid.

No, for your own good, and future enjoyment, there'll be a photograph released each year, now they really are valuable collectables from a more decadent age.

You'll just have to wait.

You'll thank me, come the festive season.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...hly-18823.html

Margaret Pilkington · 14-07-2011, 15:56

G...please will you give an adequate warning to those of us who are of a senstivie disposition, and have a 'PB intolerance'?
Thank you in advance.

garinda · 14-07-2011, 16:02

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Speaking of which, be a sport and show us your calendar's behind.

I know you said you'd limit scans to one per year but those of us who don't love within the Oswaldtwistle city limits are being deprived of Toby Jug Monthly (Jul-Dec 2011 edition) thanks to those pesky Labour councillors.

Share the joy?

By the way, they are very precious, and rare in number now.

Not everyone in Oswaldtwistle received these calendars.

Indeed, not everyone in St. Andrew's ward was lucky enough to get their hands on them.

Some years I seriously wondered if the scented hand that posted my own calendar, only delivered copies to those aesthetes who truly appreciated their beauty.

Those aesthetes numbering but one.

Ken Moss · 14-07-2011, 16:15

Thus spake Hyndburn's very own Brian Sewell, and very eloquently too.

Regrettably, being a man of lesser tastes who is content to gorge himself intellectually on episodes of Doctor Who and the prosaic scribblings of Fred Dibnah, I fear I am not worthy of such an artistic feast for the eyes.

I live in a terraced house, for pity's sake.

When I see how the other half live it makes me want to weep in shame.

garinda · 14-07-2011, 16:19

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Thus spake Hyndburn's very own Brian Sewell, and very eloquently too.

Regrettably, being a man of lesser tastes who is content to gorge himself intellectually on episodes of Doctor Who and the prosaic scribblings of Fred Dibnah, I fear I am not worthy of such an artistic feast for the eyes.

I live in a terraced house, for pity's sake.

When I see how the other half live it makes me want to weep in shame.

Teary tantrums hold no sway with me.

You'll still have to wait.

It's for your own good.

Patience is a virtue.

So's tough love.

Wait.

Ken Moss · 14-07-2011, 16:21

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Originally Posted by garinda

Teary tantrums hold no sway with me.

You'll still have to wait.

It's for your own good.

Patience is a virtue.

So's tough love.

Wait.

What's the going rate for tough love these days?

£300? £350?

It may mean something different in artistic circles.

gynn · 14-07-2011, 16:22

Back to the thread, Hyndburn Council has got itself into a situation where, politically, anybody proposing the introduction of car parking charges is committing political suicide.

In effect, it is a hidden subsidy that the Council makes for the benefit of town centre businesses. There is nothing wrong with that, and it may be a laudable policy to have. However, it comes at a cost, which should always be included the council's accounts, and also in any list of potential budget savings, so it can fairly be judged against other Council priorities.

I think I'm right in saying that it isn't currently shown as a cost in the accounts.

garinda · 14-07-2011, 16:23

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Originally Posted by garinda

Teary tantrums hold no sway with me.

You'll still have to wait.

It's for your own good.

Patience is a virtue.

So's tough love.

Wait.

Load of old codswallop, but visually that's a beautiful post.

See, an aesthete!

Style over substance.

garinda · 14-07-2011, 16:30

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Originally Posted by gynn

Back to the thread

The thread starter brought up a comparison with another political concern, which means further discussions weren't off thread.

The humourless can easily skim over any comic comments.

Ken Moss · 14-07-2011, 16:30

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Originally Posted by gynn

Back to the thread, Hyndburn Council has got itself into a situation where, politically, anybody proposing the introduction of car parking charges is committing political suicide.

In effect, it is a hidden subsidy that the Council makes for the benefit of town centre businesses. There is nothing wrong with that, and it may be a laudable policy to have. However, it comes at a cost, which should always be included the council's accounts, and also in any list of potential budget savings, so it can fairly be judged against other Council priorities.

I think I'm right in saying that it isn't currently shown as a cost in the accounts.

Without looking into it I couldn't say although I would suspect nothing has changed. It would be disastrous for Accrington town centre as it is one of the few advantages over neighbouring towns such as Blackburn or Burnley.

I can't say I'd be pleased if any controlling group introduced car parking charges, particularly at the moment.

garinda · 14-07-2011, 16:37

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Originally Posted by gynn

In effect, it is a hidden subsidy that the Council makes for the benefit of town centre businesses.

When it comes to 'free parking', it's like putting a cherry on a turd.

Considering what very little has been done besides this, to help established town centre businesses.

With many past council decisions now in place, we must be grateful there are any left at all.

Ken Moss · 14-07-2011, 16:46

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Originally Posted by garinda

Load of old codswallop, but visually that's a beautiful post.

See, an aesthete!

Style over substance.

It was indeed visually something to bring one to a state of textual ecstasy. The sweeping edges of each statement falling away gracefully to leave simply the smile from someone who is literally green with envy that he wasn't the progenitor of such wonderous prose.

You ever thought of writing council reports?