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Old 06-02-2009, 14:06   #31
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It just gets worse for the Beeb...now Clarkson has called Gord "a one-eyed Scottish idiot".
He's aplogised Wynonie, but only for making remarks about his personal appearance ... not the other bit ...
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Old 06-02-2009, 14:11   #32
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Not really economic for a poor family to pay as much as a rich one to get vital news information..
They Don't pay as much. They usually buy the 'Sun' or 'Daily Star', whereas the better off purchase 'The Daily Torygraph' or 'The Times'.
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Old 06-02-2009, 14:42   #33
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Having spent a large chunk of my career applying means tests - just take my word for it - assessing each individual family's ability to pay would cost so much that the actual fee would go through the roof and the poorest families would pay more than they pay now

PS and there would have to be a staffed fraud dept for the ones who lie
I wouldn't wish to argue with you on practicality. I am sure you're right. However I still ponder why there was a huge fuss made over the poll tax, and yet not over the BBC licence fee. Since the BBC is essentially a tax, and our government already have a way of raking it in based on income, could this not be used?
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Old 06-02-2009, 14:47   #34
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I wouldn't wish to argue with you on practicality. I am sure you're right. However I still ponder why there was a huge fuss made over the poll tax, and yet not over the BBC licence fee. Since the BBC is essentially a tax, and our government already have a way of raking it in based on income, could this not be used?
andrew the introduction many years ago of the poll tax was a financial disaster to many lower paid families n yer wondering? around 1990 my poll tax was £800 per year, BBC licence was just oer £50 i think, def less than £100 n yer pondering why no fuss oer BBC. lol
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Old 06-02-2009, 15:10   #35
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I wouldn't wish to argue with you on practicality. I am sure you're right. However I still ponder why there was a huge fuss made over the poll tax, and yet not over the BBC licence fee. Since the BBC is essentially a tax, and our government already have a way of raking it in based on income, could this not be used?
There is continually a fuss about the BBC licence fee. It's the most outdated tax ever!!!!!
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Old 06-02-2009, 15:13   #36
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There is continually a fuss about the BBC licence fee. It's the most outdated tax ever!!!!!
agree its most outdated ever, but cannot see a comparison between that n Poll Tax regarding fuss.
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Old 06-02-2009, 15:21   #37
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If you applied poll tax rules to the licence fee it would be mayhem
Six people can watch tv in one house and all 6 have to pay a fee = ridiculous!!!
...and there will be some who never watch(allegedly) - try proving that they do
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Old 06-02-2009, 15:31   #38
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There shouldn't be a licence for the BBC in the first place.

Take it away and they might just start being a bit more careful with how they spend their cash and not waste it on ridiculously overpaid and incapable presenters.
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Old 06-02-2009, 16:18   #39
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There shouldn't be a licence for the BBC in the first place.

Take it away and they might just start being a bit more careful with how they spend their cash and not waste it on ridiculously overpaid and incapable presenters.
Spot on Gayle if they had to work to raise the money like he independent TV companies have to, people like Ross wouldn't get such outrageous salaries
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Old 06-02-2009, 16:21   #40
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andrew the introduction many years ago of the poll tax was a financial disaster to many lower paid families n yer wondering? around 1990 my poll tax was £800 per year, BBC licence was just oer £50 i think, def less than £100 n yer pondering why no fuss oer BBC. lol
Well, I am aware that the poll tax was very expensive, and I'm against it, the introduction of it was wrong. The similarities I see are that it was a flat tax because 'everyone uses the same services', well the BBC is a flat tax. As I don't believe in a flat tax on income, because it punishes the poor, I am wondering why people are not creating a fuss about the BBC licence being a flat tax. It is £139, which is not as much as rates, but £139 none the less.
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Old 06-02-2009, 16:52   #41
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Well, I am aware that the poll tax was very expensive, and I'm against it, the introduction of it was wrong. The similarities I see are that it was a flat tax because 'everyone uses the same services', well the BBC is a flat tax. As I don't believe in a flat tax on income, because it punishes the poor, I am wondering why people are not creating a fuss about the BBC licence being a flat tax. It is £139, which is not as much as rates, but £139 none the less.
Andrew am I reading this post correctly, you have actually said that you are against something that was Conservative Party policy. I will make an entry in my diary, so that next time anyone says you always agree with Conservative Policy, i will be able to say 'no, he did not agree with the Poll Tax'.
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Old 06-02-2009, 17:11   #42
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i like her, it wasnt said or meant in a nasty way and she is NOTHING like her mother, she has been repremanded because she is in the public eye, if you or i said it there wouldnt be this great big fuss

get over it world
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:59   #43
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Andrew am I reading this post correctly, you have actually said that you are against something that was Conservative Party policy. I will make an entry in my diary, so that next time anyone says you always agree with Conservative Policy, i will be able to say 'no, he did not agree with the Poll Tax'.
Well claytonender make another note because I was totally against it too
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:27   #44
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Well claytonender make another note because I was totally against it too
Ok I will make a note.

Although did you try to dissuade the government at the time they first proposed enacting the legislation.
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:51   #45
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Ok I will make a note.

Although did you try to dissuade the government at the time they first proposed enacting the legislation.
to right I did, it may have been good Idea for properties down south but for properties like here in Hyndburn it was ill thought out, the concept was okay, but the application was crass, to say the least. Because your a member of a political party doesn't mean you have to support that party come-what-may
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