Cash for peerage - Page 2

andrewb · 20-01-2007, 13:38

Running away from police in a tube station whilst having dark skin and a rucksack probably wasn't the best thing to do. Of course he didn't deserve it and that dosn't justify taking someones life, but he could well have been a terrorist in the circumstances so they had few options..

SPUGGIE J · 20-01-2007, 13:51

Its not just in London were a rucksack and Dark skin atracts attention. The support centre we have at work has people of ethnic minorities from Asia and Africa and they seem to be stopped on a regular basis even though it is known were they work. Maybe they should start bunging cash to Tony so that they can get to and from work in peace never mind a peerage!

shakermaker · 20-01-2007, 14:24

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

Running away from police in a tube station whilst having dark skin and a rucksack probably wasn't the best thing to do.

The poor bloke probably shat himself at the sight of numerous blokes in uniform with guns running after him. I know I'd leg it in that situation.

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

he could well have been a terrorist in the circumstances so they had few options..

They had the more sensible option to run after him & bring him in for questioning. Surely the level-headed Met would've chosen this?
It's disgusting what happened on that day. Too quick are we to point the finger ...or gun, as it were.

andrewb · 20-01-2007, 14:41

Lets suppose he did have a bomb attached to him, if they arrested him he could have just detonated it. They must have had a strong suspicion to shoot him..

anyway we're thread wandering

shakermaker · 20-01-2007, 14:43

At least it's a sensible wander....

garinda · 20-01-2007, 16:24

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Originally Posted by Neil

Was he the bloke who did not stop when ordered?

Yes, the one who was feared to be, but it turned out wasn't, a suicide bomber, and who was trailed for two miles before being executed on a busy tube. Not maimed to disarm, shot to be killed.

Neil · 20-01-2007, 16:27

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

I know I'd leg it in that situation.

Then you too might be shot in the head.
You have to be a little stupid if armed Police say stop and you run away.

garinda · 20-01-2007, 16:28

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

Running away from police in a tube station whilst having dark skin and a rucksack probably wasn't the best thing to do. Of course he didn't deserve it and that dosn't justify taking someones life, but he could well have been a terrorist in the circumstances so they had few options..

Dark skinned?

So you're saying an Italian should have stopped in these circumstances you think, but a Swede say, could have carried on running for his tube, after picking up his free copy of the Metro newspaper, which incidentally Jean Charles de Menezes did.

garinda · 20-01-2007, 16:34

I was always being accosted by nutters in Stockwell tube.

I ignored them all, and ran for the tube, and got to work on time.

Oh that's right, I was safe to do so because of my caramel locks, and fair skin.

andrewb · 20-01-2007, 16:37

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Originally Posted by garinda

Dark skinned?

So you're saying an Italian should have stopped in these circumstances you think, but a Swede say, could have carried on running for his tube, after picking up his free copy of the Metro newspaper, which incidentally Jean Charles de Menezes did.

Of course not. But im sure theres a link in many peoples minds because most recent terrorism and most high profile, were dark skinned. Of course there are white terrorists (IRa) but recently thats not the case

garinda · 20-01-2007, 16:49

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

Of course not. But im sure theres a link in many peoples minds because most recent terrorism and most high profile, were dark skinned. Of course there are white terrorists (IRa) but recently thats not the case

There are also militant Muslims, who happen to be white, and black, and brown, and a sort of nice yellowy colour in Malaysia.

Skin tone is irrelevant.

SPUGGIE J · 20-01-2007, 17:11

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Originally Posted by garinda

I was always being accosted by nutters in Stockwell tube.

I ignored them all, and ran for the tube, and got to work on time.

Oh that's right, I was safe to do so because of my caramel locks, and fair skin.

So the PM sent people after you!

What did you promise to get a peerage?

chav1 · 20-01-2007, 17:20

the guy who got shot was an idiot , anyone would be scared with guns pointing at them but i know for sure i wouldnt move a damned inch if ordered to stop

they shot to kill because if he had a bomb a shot in teh leg wouldnt stop him pulling the detonator and he had already aroused teh suspicion of guilt by running so shooting him was teh right thing to do infact i woulda pulle dthe trigger as soon as he put one foot forward

if he had have had a bomb everyone would be singing teh cops praises but because he didnt all it has done is give the mamby pamby self rigteous and excuse to open their gobs and complain about somthing and what makes it more juicy is that he wasnt white

sory but most terrorists are not white so the majority of people stopped on suspicion will be non whites , lets not forget people born in england go to fight for the likes of binladen so even british non whites will arouse suspicion when carrying a rucksack on a busy underfround etc

it isnt the polices fault that they have to stop and check people matching the crieria its the bloody terrorists fault

if terrorists had a big sign on their back saying " i am a terrorist " there wouldnt be any problems about stopping people but unfortunatly they dont

anyway this is old news and has been covered before

the guys dead now

the end

SPUGGIE J · 20-01-2007, 17:41

Good job most mines are closed or they might have been a large amount of deaths amongst these workers.

chav1 · 20-01-2007, 18:36

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

Good job most mines are closed or they might have been a large amount of deaths amongst these workers.

err when the IRA was in full force no one was protesting about white people with irish accents getting stopped and searched

i have irish friends with irish passports and they always get pulled over to one side at the airport but they have nothing to hide so its no problem

peopel arnt getting stopped because they are black or brown they are getting stopped because at the moment terrorists happen to be mostly brown skinned and since the london bombers put their bombs in rucksacks when a brown skinned person gets on the tube they are gonna have peopel look at them and that is no ones fault but the terrorists and teh methods they use