Cash for peerage

[garinda]

Originally Posted by chav1

the guy who got shot was an idiot , anyone would be scared with guns pointing at them but i know for sure i wouldnt move a damned inch if ordered to stop

they shot to kill because if he had a bomb a shot in teh leg wouldnt stop him pulling the detonator and he had already aroused teh suspicion of guilt by running so shooting him was teh right thing to do infact i woulda pulle dthe trigger as soon as he put one foot forward

if he had have had a bomb everyone would be singing teh cops praises but because he didnt all it has done is give the mamby pamby self rigteous and excuse to open their gobs and complain about somthing and what makes it more juicy is that he wasnt white

sory but most terrorists are not white so the majority of people stopped on suspicion will be non whites , lets not forget people born in england go to fight for the likes of binladen so even british non whites will arouse suspicion when carrying a rucksack on a busy underfround etc

it isnt the polices fault that they have to stop and check people matching the crieria its the bloody terrorists fault

if terrorists had a big sign on their back saying " i am a terrorist " there wouldnt be any problems about stopping people but unfortunatly they dont

anyway this is old news and has been covered before

the guys dead now

the end

Most terrorists aren't white?

Can you not remember every terrorist attack in the UK, carried out in the name of so called freedom, for the past thirty odd years, until fairly recently, was conducted by the IRA.

I presume the familes of the hundreds of the service personel, and civilians who were killed by these terrorists remember.

Although perhaps a bit dark, with the odd bit of ginger thrown in, most of these IRA terrorists happened to be white.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by chav1

err when the IRA was in full force no one was protesting about white people with irish accents getting stopped and searched

Er wrong again, yes they were.

There was a huge backlash against innocent Irish people living in the UK in the 70's. Try being Irish in Birmingham after the attacks that happened in that city, the same attacks were people were later found to have been wrongly convicted of that heinous crime. Luckily the powers that be hadn't hung them, or followed a shoot to kill policy at that time, as they could later be relesed, albeit with an appology and compensation.

[chav1]

err no the irish were complaining , no one else gave a fcuk its only because political correctness has got even worse these days that its now a racist act to stop a black or brown person and teh ira arnt exactly active in teh UK now are they , the current lot of terrorists are of eastern appearance

if your innocent you will have nothing to hide so if the police stop you unless you want shooting i recomend you stay still like anyone with half a brain would

when i got pulled tro one side in spain by the undercover police i was confused and brushed them aside thinking they were pick pockets or beggars but once they flashed tehir badges and showed their guns i satyed still and co-operated

that idiot ran and got shot and i find it totaly disgusting that his family got a payout for his own stupidy

[garinda]

Originally Posted by chav1

err no the irish were complaining , no one else gave a fcuk its only because political correctness has got even worse these days that its now a racist act to stop a black or brown person and teh ira arnt exactly active in teh UK now are they , the current lot of terrorists are of eastern appearance

if your innocent you will have nothing to hide so if the police stop you unless you want shooting i recomend you stay still like anyone with half a brain would

when i got pulled tro one side in spain by the undercover police i was confused and brushed them aside thinking they were pick pockets or beggars but once they flashed tehir badges and showed their guns i satyed still and co-operated

that idiot ran and got shot and i find it totaly disgusting that his family got a payout for his own stupidy

Political Corectness wasn't even a term that had been invented, or indeed even crossed the Atlantic yet, when this happened in the first half of the 1970s.

There was fear, and a backlash, including violence, against some innocent people with Irish accents. There was actually also protest, both physical, and in some of the more enlightened press pleas for tolerance, against this fear that everyone with an Irish accent could be a suspect terrorist.

An irrational a fear, as every dark skinned person running for a tube being a suicide bomber.

However, what I found so unsettling in the whole sorry case, was the fact that British intelligence, on matters regarding our national security, were so obviously very wrong. As was shown when this innocent man proved not to be the person they suspected...after they'd shot him.

[WillowTheWhisp]

If he really had been a terrorist they'd had ample opportunity to shoot him but they didn't, which was a trifle odd. The stroy of him running away was later proved to be inaccurate. However he may have realised they were police and wanted to avoid them if he thought they were wanting him because he was here illegally, his visa having expired. Maybe he feared being sent back to Brazil.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

If he really had been a terrorist they'd had ample opportunity to shoot him but they didn't, which was a trifle odd. The stroy of him running away was later proved to be inaccurate. However he may have realised they were police and wanted to avoid them if he thought they were wanting him because he was here illegally, his visa having expired. Maybe he feared being sent back to Brazil.

You're right, they trailed him for two miles, including on a bus, but decided to execute him on a tube train filled with members of the public, just a short while after the terrible attacks that had also happened on the London underground system.

I know the roads that they followed him down very well, and they are wide, and fairly sparsely populated for London, certainly compared with a busy tube station.

I thought at the time the whole thing stank, and still do.

I'm still waiting for evidence that the dead man was actually working here illegally. I've never seen any proof in the press, nor saw it brought up in evidence at the inquest.

[shillelagh]

I used to get stopped and searched anyway!!!! And you cant say i've got an irish accent - it was the name that did it!!!!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by shillelagh

I used to get stopped and searched anyway!!!! And you cant say i've got an irish accent - it was the name that did it!!!!

Well it may have been that, or the fact you dressed like an extra from Riverdance, and did that funny jig instead of walking everywhere.

[Ianto.W.]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

If he really had been a terrorist they'd had ample opportunity to shoot him but they didn't, which was a trifle odd. The stroy of him running away was later proved to be inaccurate. However he may have realised they were police and wanted to avoid them if he thought they were wanting him because he was here illegally, his visa having expired. Maybe he feared being sent back to Brazil.

The story put out was that he had been living in a on appartment block being watched by MI5, frequented by illegals who where 'allowed' to come and go in order to maybe lead to bigger fish, as they do with steet drug dealers, his visa as a student had expired, and he was working illegaly as an electricians mate (thus making him a subject for closer watch) as electricians make the best bombers, not like the 'chappatti flour' lot they are trying now. I do not believe he was shot on purpose, as you cannot take chances with potential bombers, the police were acting on MI5 inteligence with a shoot to kill policy, you have no second chance with a bomber, once the bomb is detonated!