Catholic Church not all bad

[steeljack]

A jump from another thread , where the Catholic Church has come under some criticism for its stance on adoptions by Gay parents
Came accross this story where a Catholic Hospice as gone out of its way to help a young disabled lad pop his cherry.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../nvirgin27.xml

though I wonder what the reaction would have been if he had been gay

[mani]

*LOL* sorry i know he's dyin but its funny too

i'm sure there's stuff like not givin into temptation & lust and what have u in the bible...

each to their own...

[yerself]

Originally Posted by steeljack

Catholic Hospice as gone out of its way to help a young disabled lad pop his cherry.

It doesn't mention the Catholic Church in your article steeljack. A little research reveals that the Sister Frances mentioned is, in fact, a single mother and member of an Anglican order of nuns.

[steeljack]

Originally Posted by yerself

It doesn't mention the Catholic Church in your article steeljack. A little research reveals that the Sister Frances mentioned is, in fact, a single mother and member of an Anglican order of nuns.

oops sorry , saw the words Nun and Sister and mistakenley assumed she was Catholic , (a proper Bride of Christ ), not some pale anglo-saxon version, guess the light bulb should have clicked on when I read her name, with her not being called Sister Mary ..............
no offense intended to the Church


note to mods ....we need a smily to repesent remorse/apology ,the flagellating banana doesn't really cover it

note to self .........lay off the Bushmills before posting

[WillowTheWhisp]

It doesn't actually say that she helped him either, more like she didn't stand in his way and try to stop him. She didn't actively discourage him but neither did she actively encourage him. Although she does say that she is there to offer him emotional support she didn't exactly go out and pay for a prostitute for him.

He said he did not discuss his decision directly with Sister Frances, who founded the two hospices. "But I know she gave me her support."

I can see similarities here with the Catholic adoption agencies attitude towards gay couples adopting. They don't actively discourage it, neither do they actively encourage it. They do support the gay couples in that they direct them towards an organisation which will help them to adopt in much the way that Sister Francis offers this young man emotional support and who can say whether she may not have pointed him in the dirction of the magazines with the ads just as the Catholic agencies point people towards the other adoption agencies? So although she isn't Catholic and although this was supposed (I presume) to be showing a contrast in attitudes I personally find them very similar.

I also find it rather sad that the young man in the article has not found a loving relationship. I know of someone similar who has, and is now married and the proud father of two lovely, lively, boisterous children.

[Neil]

It would have been a lot less messing about if the nun had given him one instead.

[Ianto.W.]

Wish I could pop my cherry again i've forgot what it were like, that's trouble with being important.

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

Wish I could pop my cherry again i've forgot what it were like, that's trouble with being important.

Must not be that important then.

[flashy]

can i just say something about the catholic church?
my gran and grandad where catholic, my mum was catholic, my sister and her husband and kids are catholic, i went to enquire about reece being baptised and i got a huge NO!! all because i aint catholic, although my sis n bother-in-law where to be reece's god parents, the father said i couldnt get him baptised because it has to come from me, after that i lost all my faith in the church....surely it has to start somewhere?....pathetic

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by flashytart

can i just say something about the catholic church?
my gran and grandad where catholic, my mum was catholic, my sister and her husband and kids are catholic, i went to enquire about reece being baptised and i got a huge NO!! all because i aint catholic, although my sis n bother-in-law where to be reece's god parents, the father said i couldnt get him baptised because it has to come from me, after that i lost all my faith in the church....surely it has to start somewhere?....pathetic

I agree with you it can be a bit padantic.

Wait until its school choosing time. when the faith of your child can help or reduce the chance of them getting into your choosen school.

[Gayle]

Originally Posted by flashytart

can i just say something about the catholic church?
my gran and grandad where catholic, my mum was catholic, my sister and her husband and kids are catholic, i went to enquire about reece being baptised and i got a huge NO!! all because i aint catholic, although my sis n bother-in-law where to be reece's god parents, the father said i couldnt get him baptised because it has to come from me, after that i lost all my faith in the church....surely it has to start somewhere?....pathetic

If you're not catholic then why do you want to get your son christened?
(point of reference - christening is when the parent offers their child to god, baptism is when a person offers themselves i.e. an older person who has never been christened). Catholic priests tend to believe that if you're not a catholic yourself then the only reason you're doing it is to get your child into a catholic school and not because you want to dedicate them to god.

[Tinkerbelle]

Originally Posted by flashytart

can i just say something about the catholic church?
my gran and grandad where catholic, my mum was catholic, my sister and her husband and kids are catholic, i went to enquire about reece being baptised and i got a huge NO!! all because i aint catholic, although my sis n bother-in-law where to be reece's god parents, the father said i couldnt get him baptised because it has to come from me, after that i lost all my faith in the church....surely it has to start somewhere?....pathetic

I hadn't seen this thread, it has just been linked from another.

After our conversation about this shaz I was thinking ...... have you approached the Fathers of the church's that your family are known to? I know I used the term 'shop around' but some Priests have moved forward more than others. Ian's dad is a practicing catholic and attends St Marys every Sunday etc. but Father Bourke wouldn't baptise ours because Ian isn't a practicing catholic but Father Walsh from Sacred Heart would.

Have you considered catholicism yourself or is that just a no go?

If it means that much to you that you want Reece brought up catholic don't give up after an altercation with just one Priest there is many more out there that would be glad to baptise him.

[garinda]

I wonder if the church would have also help him if he was gay, and wanted to have sex with a man?

Or bisexual, and wanted a man and a woman at the same time!

[Tinkerbelle]

Originally Posted by garinda

I wonder if the church would have also help him if he was gay, and wanted to have sex with a man?

Probably would depend if you were willing to let him join!

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

Have you considered catholicism yourself or is that just a no go?

I don't think that would work, she doesn't look like she believes in fairy tales any more.