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18-07-2012, 08:52
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
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Originally Posted by jaysay
For heavens sake we have things like computers these days, I actually think people should have to apply for cold weather payments, with the parameters set out, I can't actually see a millionaire or somebody on a very high pension income (and their are a lot of those) actually applying for this benefit knowing they aint a snowballs chance of getting it, or why would they want to, maybe if this was more fairer those in genuine need might even get a bit more
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Being such a young fella I don't know how you go about getting this payment, as an old codger please could you explain it to me?
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18-07-2012, 08:56
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
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Originally Posted by jaysay
For heavens sake we have things like computers these days, I actually think people should have to apply for cold weather payments, with the parameters set out, I can't actually see a millionaire or somebody on a very high pension income (and their are a lot of those) actually applying for this benefit knowing they aint a snowballs chance of getting it, or why would they want to, maybe if this was more fairer those in genuine need might even get a bit more
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So instead of the computer automatically adding winter fuel payments to accounts according to the age of the person in the database, you intend to employ people to examine applications and input data.
There will be additional costs of detecting fraud of the people who lied on their application.
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18-07-2012, 09:07
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
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Originally Posted by MargaretR
So instead of the computer automatically adding winter fuel payments to accounts according to the age of the person in the database, you intend to employ people to examine applications and input data.
There will be additional costs of detecting fraud of the people who lied on their application.
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Its a novel way off throwing taxpayers money away, to people who don't need it, it appears you have to jump through hoops to get most benefits, except cold weather payments, and lets not forget the £25 add ons every time the temp hits freezing for 7 consecutive days
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Last edited by Neil; 19-07-2012 at 07:47.
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18-07-2012, 09:11
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
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Being such a young fella I don't know how you go about getting this payment, as an old codger please could you explain it to me?
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You just get it Neil, irrespective of your need, and you watch it with the old codger jibe there's a lot of use about these days mate
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18-07-2012, 09:24
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
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.. and lets not forget the £25 add ons every time the temp hits freezing for 7 consecutive days
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That '£25 add on' is automatically computer generated to those people who have already been means tested (those on Pension Credit only)
Employing people is what causes high admin costs.
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18-07-2012, 09:28
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
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That '£25 add on' is automatically computer generated to those people who have already been means tested (those on Pension Credit only)
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Sorry Margaret your right, I know Joan doesn't get it
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18-07-2012, 10:08
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
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Originally Posted by jaysay
For heavens sake we have things like computers these days, I actually think people should have to apply for cold weather payments, with the parameters set out, I can't actually see a millionaire or somebody on a very high pension income (and their are a lot of those) actually applying for this benefit knowing they ain't a snowballs chance of getting it, or why would they want to, maybe if this was more fairer those in genuine need might even get a bit more
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Former PMs claiming over £100,000 a year EACH to maintain luxury lifestyles | Mail Online
Well it seems I was wrong when I said the likes of Maggy Thatcher wouldn't claim the heating allowances if they had to apply, is there nothing these politicians and former politicians won't do to take the tax payer for a ride
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18-07-2012, 18:55
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
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was that you ?
didnt recognize you with the new zimmer frame.Were you on your way to pick up your new dentures
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Yep got my new dentures - good recommendation by you there Accyman best to stick to someone your friend uses!
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18-07-2012, 19:30
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
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family 1 get a free house and a huge reduction in council tax.
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I doubt very much he is getting a free house, with his earnings he will get some help towards his rent but it wont all be paid
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18-07-2012, 22:09
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
It was just on the news, in London homeless under 25 has doubled from 300 people to 600 in the last year! Is this linked to Tory policy?
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18-07-2012, 22:21
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
yep and its only the start
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19-07-2012, 09:10
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
Housing benefit used to pay me £480 for my 2 bed.
They now pay £302 :/
Do the math, it's absolutely ridiculous!
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19-07-2012, 09:18
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
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It was just on the news, in London homeless under 25 has doubled from 300 people to 600 in the last year! Is this linked to Tory policy?
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Thats rather imposible if you think about it
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23-07-2012, 21:25
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
no just more imigration
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23-07-2012, 21:28
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Re: Changes To Housing Benefits
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Originally Posted by WestEnd
Housing benefit used to pay me £480 for my 2 bed.
They now pay £302 :/
Do the math, it's absolutely ridiculous!
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housing benefit have never paid me a penny, I am lucky you may say because I have a job and yes I probably am. If your disabled or over retirement age then I think housing should be free, if you are cabable of working then get on your bike as an old tory mp once said and get a job
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