Charity Collectors On Broadway - Page 3

lancsdave · 18-03-2012, 17:46

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Originally Posted by katex

Perhaps the police only get involved when there is disruption to the flow of foot fall or some sort of franchais breaks out ?

Standard policing then

Less · 18-03-2012, 18:52

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

Standard policing then

Nope, standard policing is, ignore a thief stop a motorist.

katex · 18-03-2012, 19:40

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Originally Posted by Less

Nope, standard policing is, ignore a thief stop a motorist.

What a load of balderdash.

Motor policing is a different division to criminal policing.

cashman · 18-03-2012, 20:59

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Originally Posted by katex

What a load of balderdash.

Motor policing is a different division to criminal policing.

Thats balderdash, whilst motor police are a different division, Those pulling the strings put more focus into easy targets like motorists imho.

katex · 18-03-2012, 21:06

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Originally Posted by cashman

Thats balderdash, whilst motor police are a different division, Those pulling the strings put more focus into easy targets like motorists imho.

To what end ?

Why would they want to do that ?

Retlaw · 18-03-2012, 22:11

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Originally Posted by katex

To what end ?

Why would they want to do that ?

Money & Power, cops get an ego boost from stopping motorists, and the money in fines goes into the kitty.
Same way they tackle society, they'd sooner take on 3 pensioners with zimmer frames, than 3 yobs with bike chains.
Retlaw

Less · 18-03-2012, 23:34

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Originally Posted by katex

What a load of balderdash.

Motor policing is a different division to criminal policing.

Yeah right, so if a motor policeman saw a bank robbery he would ignore it would he?

Point scoring nil, irritation factor, less than a flea bite.

jaysay · 19-03-2012, 08:10

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Originally Posted by katex

To what end ?

Why would they want to do that ?

Because the motorist is an easy target and doesn't need any leg work to carry out

katex · 19-03-2012, 11:54

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Originally Posted by Less

Yeah right, so if a motor policeman saw a bank robbery he would ignore it would he?

Point scoring nil, irritation factor, less than a flea bite.

Of course not, I believe they are obliged to react to a situation which may be out of their remit.

accyman · 19-03-2012, 19:19

i saw a police officer doing its job today .He was about 9ft tall slim with a grey complextion and yellow hair.He had a twinkle in his eye that seemed to be directed at motorists which i thought was very friendly of him.He was working very hard indeed.

wallop79 · 30-03-2012, 11:41

Banning hasn't worked Shelter are on Broadway now, rung council who said they will send someone down. Spoke to lady from shelter who said they are only banned from certain areas like Burnley! Said no accrington, well only certain areas we're allowed on Broadway, told her they were banned, why! was her response. Doh.

AnnT · 02-04-2012, 17:53

I am a local Volunteer Coordinator for Help for Heroes so I can only comment on how to check whether the Broadway 'Help for Heroes collectors' are legit and whether the charity is aware that a street collection is taking place. Individuals or groups who wish to collect monies on behalf of Help for Heroes should register with the charity, who will then issue them with a unique event ID number. The charity then has a record of the fundraiser’s contact details, date of event, collection etc. this enables any member of the public to check whether the fundraiser is genuine by telephoning and quoting the event ID number (I am sure that if these collectors are genuine then they will certainly not mind being asked for their Help for Heroes event ID).

Street collectors on Broadway must have a licence issued to them by the council licencing office and would have had to provide written evidence quoting details such as their H4H event ID to obtain one. However I am not sure if the council confirms the validity of the event with the individual charities concerned (anyone can forge a letterhead or copy an event ID). If this protocol is not observed then the fundraisers could be fraudulent and therefore it is a matter for the Police. It is only the vigilance of the public that exposes these fraudsters.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/880886-help-for-heroes-charity-collectors-jailed-after-45-000-scam

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/9588316.Man_arrested_over_alleged_Help_for_Heroes_ fraud/

jaysay · 02-04-2012, 18:06

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Originally Posted by AnnT

I am a local Volunteer Coordinator for Help for Heroes so I can only comment on how to check whether the Broadway 'Help for Heroes collectors' are legit and whether the charity is aware that a street collection is taking place. Individuals or groups who wish to collect monies on behalf of Help for Heroes should register with the charity, who will then issue them with a unique event ID number. The charity then has a record of the fundraiser’s contact details, date of event, collection etc. this enables any member of the public to check whether the fundraiser is genuine by telephoning and quoting the event ID number (I am sure that if these collectors are genuine then they will certainly not mind being asked for their Help for Heroes event ID).

Street collectors on Broadway must have a licence issued to them by the council licencing office and would have had to provide written evidence quoting details such as their H4H event ID to obtain one. However I am not sure if the council confirms the validity of the event with the individual charities concerned (anyone can forge a letterhead or copy an event ID). If this protocol is not observed then the fundraisers could be fraudulent and therefore it is a matter for the Police. It is only the vigilance of the public that exposes these fraudsters.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/880886-help-for-heroes-charity-collectors-jailed-after-45-000-scam

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/9588316.Man_arrested_over_alleged_Help_for_Heroes_ fraud/

Good informative post

wallop79 · 02-04-2012, 21:46

I did ask Shelter woman on Friday if they had a licence to be begging & she said her boss (and pointed to someone loitering in the old Jack Fultons doorway) had a licence. The council when I rang them said that their licence could have been issued before the ban, & he would check with his boss when she was back from lunch in 20mins. Strange that when I went back onto Broadway (only a few mins later mind) they had vanished. Did they have a licence? Did they know they shouldn't have been there? I wont hesitate to question street beggars again.

lancsdave · 13-04-2012, 14:28

I think I've solved this one.

Today it's Guide Dogs for the Blind, once again same set up as the others, ring of buckets, sound system and the added novelty of stuffed dogs !!

I asked one of them to see the permit which he did show me, having said that I wouldn't know if it was legit or not.

I then rang Guide Dogs for the Blind who said somebody does collect on their behalf with this type of set up and also collects for Help the Heroes.

From the name she gave me I came up with this;

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