child benefits for Poles - Page 4

jaysay · 09-03-2008, 12:29

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy

One of the links in post #26 - Some Poles 'claim benefit twice'- refers to benefits being paid both in the UK and in Poland, so yes, they have their own welfare system.

Thanks bonnyboy, but I bet they don't get as much in their country as they do here

Benipete · 09-03-2008, 12:37

They should be paid at the same rate as they would be in Poland.If they are to be paid at all.

Neil · 09-03-2008, 13:21

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Originally Posted by Benipete

They should be paid at the same rate as they would be in Poland.If they are to be paid at all.

Interesting point that - do you also think they should pay the same tax and receive the same in other benefits as they would if they worked in Poland?

Bagpuss · 09-03-2008, 13:29

They should get no benefits because they shouldn't be here. There are enough UK workers unemployed who should be taking the jobs that the poles are currently filling, we have enough spongers here already who should be made to fill the vacancies.

Benipete · 09-03-2008, 13:40

I meant the benefit rate for children living in Poland.Not the pay rate for working here.

Neil · 09-03-2008, 13:44

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss

They should get no benefits because they shouldn't be here. There are enough UK workers unemployed who should be taking the jobs that the poles are currently filling, we have enough spongers here already who should be made to fill the vacancies.

I intend starting a Bagpuss for PM campaign - it is refreshing to see common sense spoken so plainly.

jaysay · 09-03-2008, 14:04

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Originally Posted by Neil

I intend starting a Bagpuss for PM campaign - it is refreshing to see common sense spoken so plainly.

Common sense and Neil don't usally appear in the same sentance

Benipete · 09-03-2008, 14:06

And how would you define an "Englishman"

cherokee · 09-03-2008, 17:17

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Originally Posted by blazey

I have a question to put to you.

Not all soldiers in the British Army are actually british, there are men from all different nationalities. If two men, one british born, and one polish soldier, where both fighting as british soldiers where injured in battle, say they lost limbs and had to be brought back home, to Britain, would you think only the british born soldier is entitled to compensation and disability pay?

Because technically, the polish soldier would be working in the country just as any other polish worker, and then if injured he'd claim from our benefit system, which is 'claiming what is rightfully ours', just like the Polish workers who are claiming child benefit... which I should add is RIGHTFULLY theirs too.

So would you support a polish soldier then? Or would he be just as much a burden as these other workers?

Like stated its highly unlikely you will find a polish person fighting in the british army unless they were actually born here, as every soldier has to swear an allegience (sp) to the queen. Any lad or lassie fighting for this country would be entitled to whatever is on offer, after all they put their life on the line for us. therefore I would support anyone who has the bottle to do that for me.
The Polish that are claiming child benefit for children that are not resident in this country is NOT RIGHTFULLY THEIRS and are draining resources that could be going to other worthy causes of our own.

Bagpuss · 09-03-2008, 17:57

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Originally Posted by Benipete

And how would you define an "Englishman"

That's easy - Me

Doug · 09-03-2008, 18:23

I can’t be arsed with the benefits system in this bloody country, I came out of work in August last year through no fault of my own, yet because I work and paid in to an Health Service pension scheme 20 years ago and my partner receives a pittance for providing her mother with 40 hours worth of care I can’t claim Any Benefits…for my self or my family. I’m sick of the government and those who come to this country and are able to get anything they want. I lost my job because I wouldn’t put vulnerable people at risk.

Because I was sick of working for money grabbing bastards I set up my own business I couldn’t get government funding because I don’t qualify, I have had to put a second charge against my house as a result I am another £30K in debt and my moneys running out, but can I get any financial support from my government? No I don’t qualify, why? Because I’ve not spent years on the ****ing dole or I’m not an immigrant. I have worked for 34 years, I’ve always paid my NI and Tax and I get **** all for it. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not bitter; some of these immigrants will become my employees and I will be successful and I will expand my business over the coming years and I will pay my dues to those arseholes at Westminster. I’m just sick of the attitude in this country that it’s alright to forget our own or those who put themselves out for or before others

Benipete · 09-03-2008, 18:24

Probably not

Bagpuss · 09-03-2008, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Benipete

Probably not

What ???

emamum · 09-03-2008, 21:53

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Originally Posted by Benipete

Probably not

Can i vote this as the most random post?

Benipete · 09-03-2008, 22:12

What I mean to say is that most people who think they are English are more likely to be a mixture of any number of sauces be it Celtish or European.Maybe even Polish- but never the less a mixture