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28-07-2007, 16:35
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
Gosh I'm awfully sorry about my baby dying.
I forgot it couldn't swim.
I feel so guilty now, I must remember the next time.
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28-07-2007, 16:36
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
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Originally Posted by Gayle
Nope, not on this one. I've no sympathy whatsoever.
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Some will sympathise,others won't.Still can't believe you never think about anything else apart from your children.How do you go on at work?
By the way,I'm not suggesting he shouldn't face any sort of punishment for this,he has, after all is taken into consideration,killed somebody and if I were him I would expect to be punished.
Last edited by Lilly; 28-07-2007 at 16:41.
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28-07-2007, 16:42
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
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Originally Posted by Lilly
Some will sympathise,others won't.Still can't believe you never think about anything else apart from your children.How do you go on at work?
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If your mind wanders whilst driving your car and you kill someone you can be charged with manslaughter. Just because this man was the parent of the child, doesn't mean he shouldn't face the legal implications of his actions.
You could get sent to jail for doing what he did to a dog.
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28-07-2007, 16:43
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
Many good points on both sides. I tend to agree with Gayle's position on the people who leave their kids in the car while they are at the track or having many drinks in the bar. That too me is absolutely unconscionable. They should be hung from the tallest yardarm.
However, unknowingly leaving a child in the car, then going off to work is stupid, tragic, horrendous, and devastating to this family. I imagine this bloke will be sat in shock as his sentence is carried out. I don't believe "the State" cannot do anything to this man as he certainly broke the law. The ultimate sentence will be interesting.
Brian
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28-07-2007, 16:47
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
[quote=LancYorkYankee;454261]Many good points on both sides. I tend to agree with Gayle's position on the people who leave their kids in the car while they are at the track or having many drinks in the bar. That too me is absolutely unconscionable. They should be hung from the tallest yardarm.
Quite agree with you there.That's premeditated neglect.A different scenario.
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28-07-2007, 16:50
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
am 100% with gayles stance on this one. and as for shakers comment, didn,t realise you knew the guy.
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28-07-2007, 16:50
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
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Originally Posted by Lilly
Some will sympathise,others won't.Still can't believe you never think about anything else apart from your children.How do you go on at work?
By the way,I'm not suggesting he shouldn't face any sort of punishment for this,he has, after all is taken into consideration,killed somebody and if I were him I would expect to be punished.
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Originally Posted by garinda
If your mind wanders whilst driving your car and you kill someone you can be charged with manslaughter. Just because this man was the parent of the child, doesn't mean he shouldn't face the legal implications of his actions.
You could get sent to jail for doing what he did to a dog.
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As I said above,I don't think he should escape punishment altogether.Maybe I added that bit after you'd started replying to the original post
Last edited by Lilly; 28-07-2007 at 16:58.
Reason: typo
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28-07-2007, 16:51
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
A few of my presumptions about certain people on here are being confirmed through this thread. I'm not even going to join in.
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28-07-2007, 16:56
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
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A few of my presumptions about certain people on here are being confirmed through this thread. I'm not even going to join in.
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Don't know if we're thinking along similar lines but I feel that some people are coming across very holier than thou and would have us believe that they're like Mary Poppins...practically perfect in every way
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28-07-2007, 16:58
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
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Don't know if we're thinking along similar lines but I feel that some people are coming across very holier than thou and would have us believe that they're like Mary Poppins...practically perfect in every way
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I don't think you're far wrong, but as I said, I'm not joining in.
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28-07-2007, 17:01
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
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The bloke will live what what happened for the rest of his life. Isn't that punishment enough?
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I agree with that......every single day this young man will look at other parents of small babies and remember that he too used to have a small child like theirs.....He may have friends who have children who are of a similar age......he will see these children reaching the landmarks in their lives....first day at pre-school, first day at primary school etc......and he will know that he too should have been experiencing the joys that such episodes bring.
He may lose the love of his partner, it must be hard not to blame someone when you lose a child in such circumstances.
Right up until his dying day this man will pay, and in terms that we can only imagine.
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28-07-2007, 17:02
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
I agree with that......every single day this young man will look at other parents of small baies and remember that he too used to have a small child like theirs.....He may have friends who have children who are of a similar age......he will see these children reaching the landmarks in their lives....first day at pre-school, first day at primary school etc......and he will know that he too should have been experiencing the joys that such episodes bring.
He may lose the love of his partner, it must be hard not to blame someone when you lose a child in such circumstances.
Right up until his dying day this man will pay, and in terms that we can only imagine.
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Well put Margaret
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28-07-2007, 17:05
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
This man will build his own prison, whatever the state does about punishment.
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28-07-2007, 17:26
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
You may forget to pick up the dry-cleaning on the way home from work. You do not forget you have the welfare and care of a helpless child under your supervision. If you do then you really shouldn't have children.
This man may be racked with guilt for the rest of his life, then again he may not, we don't know.
Everyday there are countless acts of cruelty carried out against children in the world, the perpetrators of which probably feel no guilt at all.
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28-07-2007, 17:36
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......
I really don't think you know how children will affect your life when you first have them.......and it is an experience that every single parent will approach differently....and yes it is a very humbling thing to be responsible for the young life in your hands....and you are right Garinda....the man may have no conscience about it.......but then again he may....and if he has believe me it will make him pay.
I think it is also necessary to draw a line between those who abuse children for pleasure/beause they are immature/because they know no better....and parents make a mistake. Most parents...if they are honest, have done things which in retrospect have been hazardous, and have been fortunate enough for their child to suffer no ill because of it....and we learn through our mistakes....to be better parents.
All I am saying is that we should not judge on what is reported. 'Judge not lest ye be judged'
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