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Old 29-07-2007, 11:35   #46
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Re: Child dies because Father forgot......

The only excuse I can make for him is that men in nature have a role in life and that is to go out and fend for the family, and child sitting (!) comes second nature; a woman to bear children and care for them ...NAH .... this guy must just have a screw loose in the first place!! That's the only excuse/explanation I can come up with.
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Old 29-07-2007, 11:37   #47
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how could some one for get a bout a child? it makes you think what is the world comeing to,let,s hope the won,t have any more,iam so sorry to read a bout this.
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Old 29-07-2007, 12:07   #48
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The only excuse I can make for him is that men in nature have a role in life and that is to go out and fend for the family, and child sitting (!) comes second nature; a woman to bear children and care for them ...NAH .... this guy must just have a screw loose in the first place!! That's the only excuse/explanation I can come up with.
What a strange lot we humans are here is a man that made a terrible mistake, one he will regret for the rest of his life, he probably doesn't want sympathy because he will be punishing himself for it.

Yet people such as yourself Katex will display a yellow ribbon displaying that your thoughts are with a poor child that went missing after her parents, (notice the caring nurturing mother is to blame as well!) deliberately left her and her twin siblings alone.

It strikes me as strange that a man that made a mistake (be it as horrible as it is) gets no sympathy and yet two neglectful parents get an audience with the Pope! If I was to offer sympathy anywhere that guy would be a long way further up the queue than those two.
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Old 29-07-2007, 12:55   #49
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What a strange lot we humans are here is a man that made a terrible mistake, one he will regret for the rest of his life, he probably doesn't want sympathy because he will be punishing himself for it.

Yet people such as yourself Katex will display a yellow ribbon displaying that your thoughts are with a poor child that went missing after her parents, (notice the caring nurturing mother is to blame as well!) deliberately left her and her twin siblings alone.

It strikes me as strange that a man that made a mistake (be it as horrible as it is) gets no sympathy and yet two neglectful parents get an audience with the Pope! If I was to offer sympathy anywhere that guy would be a long way further up the queue than those two.
I still display the yellow ribbon for the child Less in the hope that she will be found safe and well soon, not the parents, albeit however neglectful we all think the couple were, they didn't just forget about their children (please don't think this is any excuse for them .. it's not!) and understand perfectly what you are saying, but their child is lost indirectly through their neglect, not directly.

Anyway, don't think people's opinions have changed with regard to Madeline's parents, some have lots of sympathy for them as well as the opposite, as feelings for this father, shown on this thread.

I am not saying either that I don't have any sympathy for this father; just an explanation of why he may have forgotten which to me and others, beggars belief. Just feel his mind cannot be in any sort of gear.
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Old 29-07-2007, 12:59   #50
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there has been lots of chatter about this on local talk radio , a caller raised an interesting point , prior to the introduction of air-bags this sort of thing was unknown ,the babies car seat was in the front of the vehicle, now the babies are in rear which if the child falls asleep makes forgeting them easier , not an excuse but a small contributing factor .
Can any of you empathise with this? I can.The child is asleep in the car seat,making no noise,in the back of the car.Especially if your routine has changed,say you don't normally take the child to nursery,your wife does,but this morning you are doing it.You're thinking about work and other things. I can see how you could momentarily forget that the child was still there.Personally I would have noticed the child when I locked the car door at work but sadly this chap didn't.This could happen to anyone and as Margaret Pilkington said,we should not judge.
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Old 29-07-2007, 13:46   #51
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I agree that if the child had gone asleep it would be easy for the guy to forget he was there.....also if this man was unused to taking his child to child care facility then that would be another factor.
It is difficult to make assumptions on whether this man feels any remorse......I can empathise with him, and also forsee the difficulties he will have coming to terms with his anguish. Have we all become so cynical that we believe everyone wants to be rid of their children? or doesn't care as much as you and me? Caring needs to be transformed into actions to be visible, but none of us can ever know the feelings this man might have about his perceived neglect.
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Old 29-07-2007, 13:48   #52
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I fervently hope that none of us are ever in this terrible position.
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Old 29-07-2007, 16:24   #53
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I agree that if the child had gone asleep it would be easy for the guy to forget he was there.....also if this man was unused to taking his child to child care facility then that would be another factor.
It is difficult to make assumptions on whether this man feels any remorse......I can empathise with him, and also forsee the difficulties he will have coming to terms with his anguish. Have we all become so cynical that we believe everyone wants to be rid of their children? or doesn't care as much as you and me? Caring needs to be transformed into actions to be visible, but none of us can ever know the feelings this man might have about his perceived neglect.
Margaret readingthe report he was used to dropping the child off, it was just the time was changing as he was dropping his daughters off somewhere else first.

This is the point that got me, sometime during the day it would have hit him he forgot.
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Old 29-07-2007, 18:31   #54
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Article from this mornings local paper , seems the degree of punishment differs on wether its the Mother or the Father

Sentences Vary When Kids Die in Hot Cars
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