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Restless · 10-11-2013, 16:31

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Originally Posted by K99WARD

The Accrington Church looks nice from the outside but there are many roads to hell but only one way to heaven (through Jesus Christ our Lord).

Great. Just what we need on this site- another nutjob.

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Originally Posted by Less

Do you mean this book BG?

Funny. This is what I think of whenever the bible is mentioned.

egg&chips · 10-11-2013, 16:57

Thank God for the human mind and the society that allows us all to debate and share our beliefs. I too count myself as a Christian and fully support K99 in his attempt to raise a greater awareness of Jesus in the world. He feels himself to be "COMMANDED" to share his beliefs and must do so in order to fulfill his duty. My form of evangelism is more subtle and probably insipid as a result. I share my faith in person when asked about why I do some of the things I do. My belief in Bible truth is also less rigid/strong than K99's as I acknowledge that the written word is ALWAYS susceptible to the whims and prejudices of authors, publishers and promoters in any context.
I think that those who label K99 as arrogant may be inaccurate as he is doing what he genuinely believes his boss his telling him to do. I witness like minded souls on a weekly basis in the city shouting at people to accept the love of The Lord. I personally find such an approach to gaining believers puzzling and a little upsetting, but again have to bear in mind that these people truly believe that what they are doing is what God wants them to do and that they are doing it for the good of the people they are reaching out to.
I believe that we are all unique individuals and that whatever road to salvation we choose to follow (or not!!) is largely down to our own genetic make up coupled with the ongoing conditioning of the environment we inhabit. Therefore everybody's input into this particular conversation is all that it should be in it's sentiment but perhaps less than all it should be in its understanding and tolerance of opposing opinion.
I find it fascinating that religion evokes such strong emotions in so many people, even those who claim to have no spiritual leanings whatsoever. I personally detest religion for religion's sake, and view it as a business venture to rival prostitution in its longevity and ( in some cases ) it's appalling nature. My dad used to point out that more wars were started over religion than anything else (although he could'nt produce the stats to prove it, bless him) which kind of backs up my abhorrence of so many organised religions.
This exchange of opinion is therefore healthy I think, but please don't expect K99 to change his mind or be shamefaced by any counter arguments. The more people object to his mode of thought, the greater will be his resolve to share it.

Less · 10-11-2013, 17:15

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Originally Posted by egg&chips

The more people object to his mode of thought, the greater will be his resolve to share it.

Absolutely, though it did help pass a dull Sunday.

Though he might consider starting his own website rather than try to commandeer this one.

K99WARD · 10-11-2013, 17:16

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Originally Posted by egg&chips

Thank God for the human mind and the society that allows us all to debate and share our beliefs. I too count myself as a Christian and fully support K99 in his attempt to raise a greater awareness of Jesus in the world. He feels himself to be "COMMANDED" to share his beliefs and must do so in order to fulfill his duty. My form of evangelism is more subtle and probably insipid as a result. I share my faith in person when asked about why I do some of the things I do. My belief in Bible truth is also less rigid/strong than K99's as I acknowledge that the written word is ALWAYS susceptible to the whims and prejudices of authors, publishers and promoters in any context.
I think that those who label K99 as arrogant may be inaccurate as he is doing what he genuinely believes his boss his telling him to do. I witness like minded souls on a weekly basis in the city shouting at people to accept the love of The Lord. I personally find such an approach to gaining believers puzzling and a little upsetting, but again have to bear in mind that these people truly believe that what they are doing is what God wants them to do and that they are doing it for the good of the people they are reaching out to.
I believe that we are all unique individuals and that whatever road to salvation we choose to follow (or not!!) is largely down to our own genetic make up coupled with the ongoing conditioning of the environment we inhabit. Therefore everybody's input into this particular conversation is all that it should be in it's sentiment but perhaps less than all it should be in its understanding and tolerance of opposing opinion.
I find it fascinating that religion evokes such strong emotions in so many people, even those who claim to have no spiritual leanings whatsoever. I personally detest religion for religion's sake, and view it as a business venture to rival prostitution in its longevity and ( in some cases ) it's appalling nature. My dad used to point out that more wars were started over religion than anything else (although he could'nt produce the stats to prove it, bless him) which kind of backs up my abhorrence of so many organised religions.
This exchange of opinion is therefore healthy I think, but please don't expect K99 to change his mind or be shamefaced by any counter arguments. The more people object to his mode of thought, the greater will be his resolve to share it.

From now on egg and chips is my favourite meal.

K99WARD · 10-11-2013, 17:35

There have been one or two criticisms of me not frequenting other threads but I have such difficulty in finding this one I may get lost and never return. Now I know that all you atheists will hate that. I always did like Accrington (I love their bricks). My wife always hated it having gone to school there and worked there too but I like the town and I love the market. Markets seem to be dying out but I am glad that Accrington have kept theirs. I have even been praised for providing a little entertainment on a dull Sunday and that is gratifying too.

I believe that anyone who can't stand their corner is not likely to convince anybody else but it is God who saves the soul and not man. We are told that he draws us and we are to act on that drawing. It may be that we cannot recognise it at first but the God who made the soul also knows how to draw him also.

James 4:8
King James Version (KJV)
8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

Less · 10-11-2013, 17:44

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Originally Posted by K99WARD

James 4:8
King James Version (KJV)
8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

I tell you what, why not P.M. Roy the owner?

I'm sure he would rent you the space on his second server so that you can talk about God and Jesus to your hearts content.
After all he's making a profit from porn over on that one he won't mind profiting from a prophet, you would feel at home talking about the second cumming.

Less · 10-11-2013, 17:54

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Originally Posted by K99WARD

There have been one or two criticisms of me not frequenting other threads but I have such difficulty in finding this one I may get lost and never return.

But the Lord thy God would be your shining beacon of light he will lead you so long as you a prepared to follow.

Or are you of too little faith?

Wynonie Harris · 10-11-2013, 17:59

A real, live, bible-quoting Godbotherer! We haven't had one of them on here for ages! Think you might be wasting your time here, mate!

Margaret Pilkington · 10-11-2013, 18:01

I said that my input to this thread was finished...but sometimes you have to break your own rules...and for this I apologise in advance.
I just wanted to say that I like the post that Egg and Chips has submitted.

To be a christian you do not have to nail your colours to the mast......you do not have to subscribe to organised religious worship.

God(if there is one) will hear your prayer whether you are in the humblest hovel or the most glorious Cathedral.....to God(if there is one) the surroundings where you pray are of no consequence.
To me, my spirituality is private.
When I was a child my mother would take me to mass...we would see the congregation spill out of church and into the nearest hostelry. I omce commented on this and for my sins got taken to an early mass...which was nearly all old folk and mothers with children.(and the early mass was in Latin - hard to follow)

My take on evangelism is, that subtle is best...you need not let the lion know you are after his hide, because he may just turn round and savage you.

And you are so right about religion for the sake of religion......it is a business and it rakes in more money than we could ever believe...money that would feed the starving poor until their bellies were full.

I don't find K99 arrogant......just misguided in his approach to making converts....in preaching to those who do not want to hear this message...who have told him this.
This is not the time or the place...and it is certainly the wrong way of going about things.
Now I truly am finished.

K99WARD · 10-11-2013, 18:09

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Originally Posted by Less

I forgive you if calling me 'Winnie' is some form of humour.

I do not forgive you for using the site as a soap box to spout your half cocked religious beliefs.

Strange how when people want to frighten others into religion they tend to display 'God' as unforgiving and wrathful, a touch too much Old Testament for me.

I prefer:-
1/ God gave us free will.
2/ Jesus died for our sins.

Therefore we haven't got to go seeking a get out of Hell card, in some desperate attempt to avoid hot pokers up our bottoms for eternity.
We all will have a free, complimentary ticket to the heavenly amusement park and will be attended by friendly hosts.
Oh, and there won't be a sign on the gates saying, 'you have to be this good to enter'.

Margaret welcomed you to the site, perhaps you should heed her advice? God moves in mysterious ways, perhaps it's time for you to listen to folk and not preach?

Calling you Winnie was a genuine error on my part which I later corrected. It does take a little time to get used to a new forum as they are all slightly different. I used to be top poster by a long way at HOMEWITHGOD forum but it eventually closed down. I had no idea that there was such an interesting one so near to home.

You are perfectly correct in your preferences. What many people forget is that having been given free will we will be judged on it. It is not intended to be the kind of free will where one does as one pleases but free to do as God requires. Jesus did indeed die for our sins. One hopes that he did not die in vain. It is a vain hope that we can be saved by 'being good' because no one is good enough, no one!

Margaret Pilkington · 10-11-2013, 18:14

K99........get down off the cross....We need the wood, the fire has gone out,

DaveinGermany · 10-11-2013, 18:17

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Originally Posted by K99WARD

I have such difficulty in finding this one

So, doesn't that tell you quite a lot about the views concerning religion on here?

Less · 10-11-2013, 18:21

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Originally Posted by K99WARD

Calling you Winnie was a genuine error on my part which I later corrected.

Hey don't worry about it, I have a forgiving nature and can tolerate those that tolerate others.

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Originally Posted by K99WARD

It does take a little time to get used to a new forum as they are all slightly different. I used to be top poster by a long way at HOMEWITHGOD forum but it eventually closed down. I had no idea that there was such an interesting one so near to home.

Oh, Dear so, how long have you been cast out into the wilderness of the WWW 40 days? 40 nights?
All of the above?

So you managed to close down one website and thought you would come along and do the same for us?

Well gee thank's, help like yours we don't need.

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Originally Posted by K99WARD

You are perfectly correct in your preferences.

You don't know what my preferences are, but I bet you have a Biblical quote standing by just in case, (why does Leviticus spring to mind for me? must learn to google).

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Originally Posted by K99WARD

What many people forget is that having been given free will we will be judged on it. It is not intended to be the kind of free will where one does as one pleases but free to do as God requires. Jesus did indeed die for our sins. One hopes that he did not die in vain. It is a vain hope that we can be saved by 'being good' because no one is good enough, no one!

Cheap salesmans tricks, offers you something that doesn't quite match what's written on the box.

K99WARD · 10-11-2013, 18:29

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

K99........get down off the cross....We need the wood, the fire has gone out,

Hi Margaret,

Less · 10-11-2013, 18:37

Just remembered, haven't seen LancYorkYankee on here for a fair while, now there was a very nice but dedicated God botherer, came all the way from America to go to an AccyWeb meet and to bring me a religious pamphlet.
Still got the pamphlet as a keepsake, got him to sign it, it's in my bookcase unopened just like my family Bible.