Cig End Fine at 70 - Page 6

cashman · 07-02-2009, 00:03

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Then can I assume that the post from the Ossy Belle (Margrit) registered with you?
Sorry Cashy I wasn't aware of that..........there but for the grace of God go I.

no need to be sorry roy- "cost of living"

garinda · 07-02-2009, 00:14

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Originally Posted by Caz

Why on earth should the company be held liable for a person's litter, although I do know that Maccies clear on a regular basis.

Do we extend this to every single business that sells something? Shall we target everywhere that sells ice lollies coz people drop the wrappers, or any any shop that sells something where the purchaser takes an item out of a bag and discards it once out of the shop?

Litter is the individual person's responsibility.

Are you suggesting the firm trawl the town looking for their empties?

Perhaps some people think it is the car manufacturers who should be fined or imprisoned when a drunk driver kills a child.

We are all equal before the law, and must take responsibilities for our own actions.

garinda · 07-02-2009, 00:16

If she thinks she's grown up enough to smoke, she's old enough to face the consequences.

garinda · 07-02-2009, 00:20

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

The Altzheimers symptoms I mentioned at post #32 may well apply to some members here

More likely the poor exchange rate, means poorer booze.

cashman · 07-02-2009, 00:22

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Originally Posted by garinda

If she thinks she's grown up enough to smoke, she's old enough to face the consequences.

agree entirely, though think roys point about a warning in the first instance should be the norm, after that bounce em. its double standards fer me, warn a guy wi a bit of puff,etc yet do a smoker first time rubs me wrong way.

garinda · 07-02-2009, 00:27

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Originally Posted by cashman

agree entirely, though think roys point about a warning in the first instance should be the norm, after that bounce em. its double standards fer me, warn a guy wi a bit of puff,etc yet do a smoker first time rubs me wrong way.

Maybe, but that should be applicable to all, if it were the case.

It should have nothing to do with person's age.

It's patronising to think those of a certain age need extra protection from the laws of the land.

There's been enough publicity about fines being given for dropping a cigarette.

I chose not to chance a fine, so I bin mine, or even pocket it...when I'm sure it's truly out.

cashman · 07-02-2009, 00:39

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Originally Posted by garinda

Maybe, but that should be applicable to all, if it were the case.

It should have nothing to do with person's age.

It's patronising to think those of a certain age need extra protection from the laws of the land.

There's been enough publicity about fines being given for dropping a cigarette.

I chose not to chance a fine, so I bin mine, or even pocket it...when I'm sure it's truly out.

so who's saying age should be a factor?

garinda · 07-02-2009, 00:43

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Originally Posted by cashman

so who's saying age should be a factor?

Lol, not you.

Some other people are making out she was targeted because of her age, which somehow made her a soft target.

Which is both patronising and wrong.

katex · 07-02-2009, 00:44

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Originally Posted by cashman

agree entirely, though think roys point about a warning in the first instance should be the norm, after that bounce em. its double standards fer me, warn a guy wi a bit of puff,etc yet do a smoker first time rubs me wrong way.

Nah Cashy .. too much adminstration to do this, can you imagine having to check whether offenders have been warned before .. too much money .. zero tolerance, one hit fine is the best way.

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Originally Posted by garinda

I chose not to chance a fine, so I bin mine, or even pocket it...when I'm sure it's truly out.

I know .. keep finding stubs in me pocket

Pretty disgusting, but better than losing £75 eh ?

Neil · 07-02-2009, 09:11

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Originally Posted by cashman

agree entirely, though think roys point about a warning in the first instance should be the norm,

I don't agree mate, I can't believe she does not know it is wrong to drop litter after 70 years.

jaysay · 07-02-2009, 10:24

I can actually remember when ladies ddn't smoke in the street

garinda · 07-02-2009, 10:32

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I can actually remember when ladies ddn't smoke in the street

In olden days a glimpse of stocking
Was looked on as something shocking,
But now, God knows,
Anything Goes.

jaysay · 07-02-2009, 10:49

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Originally Posted by garinda

In olden days a glimpse of stocking
Was looked on as something shocking,
But now, God knows,
Anything Goes.

Ya Rindi, but St Trinians put that to the sword

Speedy · 07-02-2009, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Caz

She also states that she can only afford to smoke coz her family send her a monthly ration of baccy from Germany, (just in case we think she can afford to pay the fine I suppose) but lo and behold she sits there smoking a ciggy with a filter tip?...

am i right in thinking that means she isnt paying UK duty on that baccy?

Honestly she deserves the fine, everyone knows littering can result in a fine no matter what it is you dropped. By the sounds of it the police/wardens where easily visable in town that day so why take the risk? Its like seeing a speed camera and putting your foot down

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cashman · 07-02-2009, 13:12

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Originally Posted by katex

Nah Cashy .. too much adminstration to do this, can you imagine having to check whether offenders have been warned before .. too much money .. zero tolerance, one hit fine is the best way.

why they seem to do it easily enough with "Puff"?