Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!

[Less]

Could I just ask, no not you Ken, could I just ask the members of AccyWeb, both new and old, but especially the old.
When the site started and indeed now that fortunately the members still take the bother to post on the site, do any of us want the site to be like Hyndburns Councillors , always bitching about each other or do we want it to return to a site with the need for ordinary people to bitch about our politicians on?

[cashman]

makes no difference at all to me personally, am quite happy some take the trouble to come on, be better still imho if all parties did. i do like to bitch about politics n would like even more if i could bitch at all of em, if i had the need.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

It wasn't asked for, it was just promised to Prospects which is borough-wide. Since Prospects aren't going to concentrate all the money they get in one ward it will be to the benefit of all.

Maybe this is another mistake by the Council who must have had some involvement with this.

I am not convinced the money will be handled without bias to Prospects own agenda and can think of a group that would possibly be a better choice.

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Less

Could I just ask, no not you Ken, could I just ask the members of AccyWeb, both new and old, but especially the old.
When the site started and indeed now that fortunately the members still take the bother to post on the site, do any of us want the site to be like Hyndburns Councillors , always bitching about each other or do we want it to return to a site with the need for ordinary people to bitch about our politicians on?

Perhaps there should be a section just for political discourse rather than the many attempts to hijack other threads with political backstabbing. The ordinary man/woman do need the opportunity to have their say on politcal matters, but I for one do get a bit aggrieved when so many threads are twisted (hijacked), to continue with the personal hate complaints of a few.
To set the record straight, I do not have any political affiliations, I consider all politicians of whatever persuasion to be tarred with the same brush and contrary to English Law they have to prove themselves innocent and free from blemish IMHO.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Neil

That was a bad move in my opinion.

I think Council houses should remain Under Council control but should be managed correctly.
Why can a private company manage upgrade the houses when the Council could not?
I also disagree with selling Council houses to tenants at reduced prices. Its like burning Council Tax payers money.

The council were unable to use outside investment to refurbish council houses by law, but as an housing association they can use outside investment. As a tenant of Hyndburn Homes I voted in favour and think it was the right move and am still of that impression, given the fact that before the vote everybody was given the chance to look at a video presentation, and was visited by officers from HBC housing

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Perhaps there should be a section just for political discourse rather than the many attempts to hijack other threads with political backstabbing. The ordinary man/woman do need the opportunity to have their say on political matters, but I for one do get a bit aggrieved when so many threads are twisted (hijacked), to continue with the personal hate complaints of a few.
To set the record straight, I do not have any political affiliations, I consider all politicians of whatever persuasion to be tarred with the same brush and contrary to English Law they have to prove themselves innocent and free from blemish IMHO.

Well I can see where your coming from Barrie, but the thing is if people don't like certain threads they can always bypass them, but If Labour take control of the council it will soon revert to the old days, because they will disappear into the sunset, much like they did when their Westminster counter parts were getting stick on here and there were no political points to be scored

[JCB]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Pendle Street in Central ward is a prime example of waste. Why on Earth did the council buy those and leave them stood empty and structurally unsound when insurance payments to the original owners would have circumvented the whole problem? As I understand it, it was a quick fix election promise which has now lumbered us with a very expensive and practically useless asset that will inevitably cost us even more in future.

I am not sure what you mean when you refer to a quick fix election promise .

More than two years ago the residents of the terrace in question in Pendle St had a meeting in Scaitcliffe House with three members of the Council staff .
The residents were told of the concern regarding the structure of this one terrace , one out of the four terraces in Pendle St . There were to be two independent surveys , one internal and one external , of the terrace , after which the Council would decide the appropriate action to take .

Both surveys took place . Both put the houses on the terrace into the category which meant that the Council had no option but to decide on demolition .
Some of the houses are still inhabited , but about three quarters are boarded up , the residents having sold them to the Council , and gone to live elsewhere .
When all the properties are empty I presume the terrace will be demolished .

I don't know the ins and outs of procedures for dealing with such circumstances . I don't know if the Council did anything wrong . It all seems above board to me , but I am eager for anyone to put me in the full picture if I am mistaken .

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well I can see where your coming from Barrie, but the thing is if people don't like certain threads they can always bypass them

Not always possible Jay, look back over many threads in the last couple of months, they start off as something non political, but someone somewhere will throw in a little dig & then the thread wanders off into an all out bashing of one party/politician or another ! Barrie's making a valid point.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Not always possible Jay, look back over many threads in the last couple of months, they start off as something non political, but someone somewhere will throw in a little dig & then the thread wanders off into an all out bashing of one party/politician or another ! Barrie's making a valid point.

I don't know about that Dave, the mods seem to be clamping down on thread wandering at the moment

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I don't know about that Dave, the mods seem to be clamping down on thread wandering at the moment

Well that's fine by me, like I say I'm a neutral stuck out over here so it has no direct bearing on my way of life.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Well that's fine by me, like I say I'm a neutral stuck out over here so it has no direct bearing on my way of life.

Well I'm in the middle of it and it don't have any bearing on my way of life either Dave

[g jones]

A political section would be interesting. It would give legitimacy to those posting.

[shillelagh]

Originally Posted by Neil

Maybe this is another mistake by the Council who must have had some involvement with this.

I am not convinced the money will be handled without bias to Prospects own agenda and can think of a group that would possibly be a better choice.

what group ...

[Neil]

Originally Posted by g jones

A political section would be interesting. It would give legitimacy to those posting.

It has been discussed before and it was decided we have enough sections to cover everything now.

What we need is for certain members to stop trying to turn every thread into a political one.

[BERNADETTE]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Not always possible Jay, look back over many threads in the last couple of months, they start off as something non political, but someone somewhere will throw in a little dig & then the thread wanders off into an all out bashing of one party/politician or another ! Barrie's making a valid point.

I agree with both yourself and Barrie Dave. It seems to me that threads are being used as cheap point scoring exercises all the time. Only trouble being we never get any gist into how things would be different if Labour had the overall vote in Hyndburn. Like yourself and Barrie I have no particular affilliation to any party but would like straight answers on issues raised by the general public from any party rep and I am not talking about Accringtn Market here, maybe a straight answer on immigration policy could be a start, how long is this country just going to keep allowing people to extract the urine???