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05-10-2010, 10:45
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
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I only ever had two rules when I went out for a drink, don't talk about religion and politics
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I see.
You took a political decision.
There's just no getting away from it.
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05-10-2010, 10:58
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
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Originally Posted by garinda
I see.
You took a political decision.
There's just no getting away from it.
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No a sensible one
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05-10-2010, 11:49
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
I saw him in a café in town on Sunday morning. I've forgotten its name, the one with the sweets and ice cream. He seemed to be very popular in there. He's a lovely man from what I know of him.
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05-10-2010, 12:20
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
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Originally Posted by blazey
I saw him in a café in town on Sunday morning. I've forgotten its name, the one with the sweets and ice cream. He seemed to be very popular in there. He's a lovely man from what I know of him.
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well he would be very popular in yon blaze.
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05-10-2010, 15:31
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
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well he would be very popular in yon blaze.
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Perhaps Sunday is pay day.
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05-10-2010, 17:43
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
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I saw him in a café in town on Sunday morning. I've forgotten its name, the one with the sweets and ice cream. He seemed to be very popular in there. He's a lovely man from what I know of him.
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Looks like you do talk some sense blazey
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05-10-2010, 18:04
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss
As far as I am aware, one section of those houses was built on land which was not deemed to be stable enough for housing. Lo and behold, some years later.....
Whatever the ins-and-outs of it, the council should not have taken those on as assets and demolition is not cheap.
It was a very costly move and a mistake, in my opinion.
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And what were the residents of Pendle St expected to do when their houses were condemned ?
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05-10-2010, 21:32
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
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And what were the residents of Pendle St expected to do when their houses were condemned ?
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Is that not what buildings insurance is for?
Why should the Council have to sort it out?
Come to think of it I don't know the full story behind Pendle Street so I might be talking out of my backside again.
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06-10-2010, 06:12
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
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And what were the residents of Pendle St expected to do when their houses were condemned ?
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As Neil has posted, the magic wand called 'buildings insurance' which would have sorted the whole problem out.
For some reason the council promised to take it on during an election campaign and all of a sudden we're left with a collossal liability that we can't do a thing with.
You're coming across well as a Tory sympathiser but if Labour had done the same thing I don't think we'd be having this discussion. I wouldn't be happy if our lot had been responsible either.
A good example of council acquisitions is South Shore/Blackpool Street in Oswaldtwistle which I have seen recently and am very impressed with. Again, the management could have been better but buying up empty houses and trying to bring them back into use for first-time buyers is a good idea and one that I'm pursuing. The timing just happened to be lousy in this instance but it wasn't really anyone's fault that the housing market chose that particular moment to collapse.
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06-10-2010, 07:50
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss
As Neil has posted, the magic wand called 'buildings insurance' which would have sorted the whole problem out.
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Don't agree with me, people will think your insane as well
For me if someone's house become unfit to live in or unsafe and they did not have insurance to cover it or can not afford to make it safe/fit they should get nothing. The Council should take the property, correct the problems and sell it on to pay for the work.
This should include business properties as well so we would not have some of the eyesores we do around the Borough like the Commercial in Church and the Paladium in Ossy.
People should not get free handouts and have the value of there properties increased at my expense because they neglected it themselves.
In fact the whole Phoenix project is not quite right in my opinion but if we go down this route we will end up way off thread
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06-10-2010, 07:55
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
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Originally Posted by Neil
Is that not what buildings insurance is for?
Why should the Council have to sort it out?
Come to think of it I don't know the full story behind Pendle Street so I might be talking out of my backside again.
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Thanks for info .
I don't know the procedures needed to be taken when a terrace is judged unfit for dwelling by two surveys carried out by the Council .
If building insurance was the way to sort the matter , then clearly the Council was doing things the wrong way .
I know a lady who lived on the terrace in question . She is in her late 60s and asked if I would go with her to the meeting at Scaitcliffe House when the residents were told what action the Council was taking , starting with the two surveys .
Building insurance was never mentioned . Basically the residents were told that if the surveys resulted in the houses being considered unfit for dwelling they could sell them to the Council .
My friend , when she found out that demolition was the only option , took the money being offered by the Council and bought another house .
That's all I know . I don't know what goes on behind closed doors .
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06-10-2010, 08:02
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
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You're coming across well as a Tory sympathiser but if Labour had done the same thing I don't think we'd be having this discussion.
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Does everything have to be reduced to party politics ?
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06-10-2010, 08:08
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
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Not to criticise your citation, but what did the line I posted after that say? Since the thread was originally about political decisions you seem to be someone confused as to the nature of the discussion here.
Context is a wonderful thing, especially when quotes are taken out of it.
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06-10-2010, 08:25
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss
Context is a wonderful thing, especially when quotes are taken out of it.
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Often on a forum like this if you quote the whole post we end up with pages of massive quotes and it gets a little unreadable.
By just quoting that bit it makes it easy to see who and what he is referring to.
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06-10-2010, 08:42
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Re: Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!
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Often on a forum like this if you quote the whole post we end up with pages of massive quotes and it gets a little unreadable.
By just quoting that bit it makes it easy to see who and what he is referring to.
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I totally agree Neil, seeing I've just learnt how to do it
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