Cllr Britcliffe is doing things right!

[Neil]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I totally agree Neil, seeing I've just learnt how to do it

mmmm I think you need more practice, I spend too much time on here fixing your messed up quotes already, I suspect it is about to get worse

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Neil

mmmm I think you need more practice, I spend too much time on here fixing your messed up quotes already, I suspect it is about to get worse

Don't you be cheeky, twas uncle Less who showed me the way

[Less]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Don't you be cheeky, twas uncle Less who showed me the way

I may have shown you, that doesn't mean you took any notice.

[JCB]

Originally Posted by Neil

Is that not what buildings insurance is for?
Why should the Council have to sort it out?
Come to think of it I don't know the full story behind Pendle Street so I might be talking out of my backside again.

I don't know whether this would have any bearing on buildings insurance , but at the meeting the residents were told that the terrace was being assessed as one entity . If half of the terrace was deemed as sound and half as in need of demolition , the whole terrace would have to be demolished .

[Tealeaf]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

As

A good example of council acquisitions is South Shore/Blackpool Street in Oswaldtwistle which I have seen recently and am very impressed with.

What a coincidence! The council also bought and did up some houses on South Shore Street and Blackpool Street in Church...

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Less

I may have shown you, that doesn't mean you took any notice.

I always take notice of you Less

[JCB]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Not to criticise your citation, but what did the line I posted after that say? Since the thread was originally about political decisions you seem to be someone confused as to the nature of the discussion here.

Context is a wonderful thing, especially when quotes are taken out of it.

I am not confused regarding the fact that you said that I was coming across as a Tory sympathiser .

I am confused that you needed to make such a remark . What bearing did it have on what I was saying ?

I am even more confused now by the whole Pendle Street business now that the insurance issue has been brought up .
Insurance was never mentioned by the Council officials at the meeting .
If it was pertinent I am wondering why it wasn't brought up .

[MargaretR]

I doubt whether many of the residents of Pendle St actually had buildings insurance.
The population there is mainly of asian origin and they don't buy using conventional mortgages which would require such insurance.

Asian property purchases are made from their own equivalent of a person/persons who provide finance, similar to the Italian 'godfather' system.

PS - that is why an asian prospective buyer can offer you a 'cash sale'

[Neil]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I doubt whether many of the residents of Pendle St actually had buildings insurance.

So its there own fault if they fall down not Hyndburn's Council tax payer

[gynn]

The houses in Pendle Street didn't fall into disrepair overnight. It was a process that took several years, so buildings insurance (renewable annually) would have long since ceased to be available.

The Council always used to deal with with such problems through its Slum Clearance programme, and got the money back from central government. Nowadays it has to meet the costs itself. It doesn't have a choice if the houses are in a bad enough state (as the surveys apparently show).It is a statutory duty.

Don't blame the ruling group. Blame the system.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by gynn

The houses in Pendle Street didn't fall into disrepair overnight. It was a process that took several years, so buildings insurance (renewable annually) would have long since ceased to be available.

So that makes it ok to neglect your house for years then get the Council to fix it.
How do I get HBC to come and re plaster my dining room? When I took the paper off all the plaster came with it. Its ok I have neglected to decorate this room for years

[gynn]

Originally Posted by Neil

So that makes it ok to neglect your house for years then get the Council to fix it.
How do I get HBC to come and re plaster my dining room? When I took the paper off all the plaster came with it. Its ok I have neglected to decorate this room for years

It doesn't make it ok, but it DOES put the responsibility on the Council, and they don't have any choice about dealing with the problem.

[Neil]

I best go and spank myself for taking us off thread

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by JCB

I don't know whether this would have any bearing on buildings insurance , but at the meeting the residents were told that the terrace was being assessed as one entity . If half of the terrace was deemed as sound and half as in need of demolition , the whole terrace would have to be demolished .

Not necessarily. Buttresses have been quite successfully used to shore up partial terraces in the past and the houses in question were added onto the original block in the first place against advice.

S215 notices are there to make owners sit up and make sure their houses are in good repair. If we go down the route of buying up everything shoddy we'd be broke within three weeks.

Bad landlords/owners are a perennial bugbear across the borough and we need blanket legislation against this. It came into force in five areas on 1st October for a five year period, why not Hyndburn-wide I don't know because we've been screaming for it in Rishton for years.

[gynn]

Originally Posted by JCB

The residents were told of the concern regarding the structure of this one terrace , one out of the four terraces in Pendle St . There were to be two independent surveys , one internal and one external , of the terrace , after which the Council would decide the appropriate action to take .

Both surveys took place . Both put the houses on the terrace into the category which meant that the Council had no option but to decide on demolition .

There is "shoddy" and there is "no option to demolish". The Council has discretion over the former, but has a statutory responsibility over the latter.