Closer military ties with France is this right for our armed forces?

[JCB]

Originally Posted by Eric

so maybe it's time to cut out the fatalistic, "what can we do" attitude to things which affect the sovereignty and independece of Great Britain, and take a lead from the French people by letting the government know, in no uncertain terms, how the people feel.

The problem is that would call for solidarity , a quality in short supply in the UK .

[cashman]

Originally Posted by JCB

The problem is that would call for solidarity , a quality in short supply in the UK .

True summat i always said, remember the Poll Tax? a few pensioners went to jail, most others that said they wouldn't pay coughed up pretty damn quick, the only time ya get solidarity in Britain is during War Time.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by cashman

True summat i always said, remember the Poll Tax? a few pensioners went to jail, most others that said they wouldn't pay coughed up pretty damn quick, the only time ya get solidarity in Britain is during War Time.

Might be a good time to declare war on the French

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Eric

Might be a good time to declare war on the French

Only if we can use their Aircraft Carriers cos they will have planes on em.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by cashman

Only if we can use their Aircraft Carriers cos they will have planes on em.

Don't see this as a problem .... the pilots of those planes, like the crews of the ships, are probably more adept at flying white flags than they are at combat

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

Don't see this as a problem .... the pilots of those planes, like the crews of the ships, are probably more adept at flying white flags than they are at combat

You'll have Charles De Gaulle spinning in his grave

[Stumped]

Originally Posted by JCB

True much has changed since 1975 , but there is also much confusion . The title of this thread is one example . The closer military ties with France have nothing to do with the European Union .

Another source of confusion is the Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights . These are not part of the European Union .

Many associate anything European with the European Union .

As I have already said I voted in 1975 to leave the EEC .
If there was a referendum tomorrow about whether we should stay in the European Union , I would not be as clear in my mind as I was in 1975 . I have yet to see a viable alternative to our membership of the EU .

Most of the debate is about single issues about which people are concerned . It's easy to pick on one topic to knock the EU , and sometimes to pick on one topic that has nothing to do with the EU to knock the EU .

There has been no serious debate about membership , or about what leaving the EU would entail .

Reading between the lines , you will probably see that my opinion towards the EEC , now the EU , has mellowed since our referendum .

Maybe we should align ourselves with Iran or North Korea. At least they have leaders who are more than capable of scaring the sh-one-t out of the cowering west.

[Stumped]

According to the daily press, UK gas and oil supplies are likely to result in winter power cuts should Somali pirates succeed in intercepting ships heading for our shores. Can we expect the Frogs to come up trumps in lending a hand to exterminate these parasites? Highly unlikely I think. Then again the RAF, as well as the Royal Navy, is about to be reduced to a mere shell of what we have all come to know and identify with. A couple of Tornadoes could easily blast them out of the water . . . but would Cameron's flawed idealogy let it happen?

[Eric]

Originally Posted by jaysay

You'll have Charles De Gaulle spinning in his grave

Screw de Gaulle .... that's the guy who made a speech in Quebec which ended with "Vive le Quebec ... Vive le Quebec libre"! Agitating the faeces big time.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

Screw de Gaulle .... that's the guy who made a speech in Quebec which ended with "Vive le Quebec ... Vive le Quebec libre"! Agitating the faeces big time.

Take it you weren't a fan of De Gaulle then Eric

[Neil]

Things are looking a bit serious in Korea, apparently France have already surrendered.

[Alan Varrechia]

Originally Posted by Neil

Things are looking a bit serious in Korea, apparently France have already surrendered.

Doe's that mean we will be able to borrow their ships when the yanks get us involved.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Neil

Things are looking a bit serious in Korea, apparently France have already surrendered.

And the Italians are looking very iffy too

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia

Doe's that mean we will be able to borrow their ships when the yanks get us involved.

There maybe a problem there Alan think they'll be left hand drive

[Alan Varrechia]

Probably smell of garlic and onions aswell.