Codex Alimentarius

[WillowTheWhisp]

Now things like that should help convince the government that it would be a bad move to stop people taking this as it would lead to more pressure on the NHS to treat people with dementia.

[Bonnyboy]

Not sure why this has been on the News today being heralded as new. As far as I’m aware it isn’t new. Our G.P. has been prescribing this to my better half for the last 3 years at least for the condition mentioned ( vitamin B12 Compound - Early Onset Dementia - deficiency of Thiamine )

If our G.P. knew to prescribe it in 2004 he can’t have been the only one to know. Therefore I’ve known for a few years what it can be used to aid. Bet the girls on the till at Holland an Barrett didn’t know.

It’s nowt new , go Google it. Found this site within seconds Neurosoup

Vitamin B12 (Cyanocobalamin) deficiency causes pernicious anemia, memory loss and other cognitive decline. It is most likely to occur among elderly people as absorption through the gut declines with age. In extreme (fortunately rare) cases paralysis can result.

[MargaretR]

Her B12 level must have been very low for her to get the injections.
Nhs guidelines consider a serume B12 count of 400+ is fine
In Japan, anything below 550 is considered dangerous.
It causes more than dementia and pernicous anaemia - I have neither.
B12 (cobalabin) deficiency symptoms mimic other diseases -MS is one.

CFS, peripheral neuropathy, and hypersomnia were mine.

I spent 2 weeks googling so am well 'genned up'

In this country docs inject hydroxocobalamin. I the USA they use cyanocobalamin.
Both those are artificial and need conversion by the liver to - methylcobalamin (which I take by absorption under my tongue - my damaged gut cant get it from my food.)

If you have 2 days to spare you can find out all about it here
Vitamin B12 deficiency is commonly misdiagnosed. - WrongDiagnosis.com
A forum thread with 4421 posts since Feb 07

[Bonnyboy]

Her B12 was low for reasons I understand but shalln’t go into ( she is on the medication in pill form not injections)

Margaret thanks for the link. Information like that is really important to me, will give it a good read…Ta

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy

Her B12 was low for reasons I understand but shalln’t go into ( she is on the medication in pill form not injections)

Margaret thanks for the link. Information like that is really important to me, will give it a good read…Ta

Have PM 'd you - injections are better than pills - when I wrote Pm I thought you said she was on injections
Brain fog is symptom too

[Bonnyboy]

Thanks Margaret

[WillowTheWhisp]

Hmmm I know someone with brain fog but who will not take supplements due to being very sceptical about them despite having had improvements to health when taking one supplement which they have now stopped taking and deteriorated!

[MargaretR]

In only 9 days the petition has 100 signatures - thanks everybody

[Margaret Pilkington]

I am glad the petition is taking off Margaret......I hope that many more people sign it too.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I am glad the petition is taking off Margaret......I hope that many more people sign it too.

If this rate keeps up there will be over 4000 , only 200 needed to ensure it gets ministerial attention

[MargaretR]

I have recieved a subscribers email from the Alliance for Natural Health which directs the reader to
http://www.anhcampaign.org/news/code...m_medium=email
which includes the following paragraph-

UK Petition on Codex at No 10 Downing Street

Another misinformed, but undoubtedly well-meaning, action is the petition to the UK government on Codex at No 10 Downing Street, London. You can find this petition at: Petition to: oppose the adoption of the Codex Alimentarius (WHO/UN) proposals for restriction of the presently freely available herb/vitamin/mineral food supplements. | Number10.gov.uk.

This petition indicates that Codex will cause herbal/vitamin/mineral food supplements to become ‘prescription only’. This is not the case, as Codex Alimentarius deals with all categories of food and has already ratified (in 2005) the text of an international guideline on vitamin and mineral food supplements, which is expected to be finalised—complete with maximum guideline dosages—in around 2012 or 2013. By definition, products compliant with these guidelines will be safeguarded as a category of food (i.e., food supplements) and therefore will not be categorised as medicines.

Of course the petition is only open to British citizens (yet it’s being pushed as far afield as New Zealand) and the more urgent issue is the much more imminent restrictions in Europe being imposed by provisions of European Directives and Regulations that then have a major bearing on Codex.

This indicates that my petition is misguided and misinforms, and that the European Union directive is the villian in the piece.

I write to say that it is nice to know that they consider my effort 'well meaning' and wonder why they have waited many months to clarify the confusion which they say has been rampant on the internet.
I DID write to my Member of the European Parliament, who never bothered to reply.

I have not deliberately misled, and if my effort has given the whole issue more publicity than they had managed to date then it has done some good.

The petition will now have to be referred to the UK Health ministry as petition of that size must.
The Alliance for National Health have an active campaign ongoing in Europe and I have known that since before I began the petition
I hope that my petition has raised awareness in the UK, which will enable persons to seek for, and decide which, set of information to believe
(even though none of the versions are good news)
I continue to stockpile the supplements essential to my survival, because I have little confidence in the success of the campaign

It is interesting to note that the rate at which signatures have been added has increased dramatically in the past week
.....so public awareness is happening.......at last!


Ps - reached New Zealand WOW - I have never been further south than Malta in my lifetime

[MargaretR]

I have just had clarification from a member on another forum -
although some items will be prescription free, as now, the permitted doses will be so small that no benefit will be gained from taking them.
The battle continues

[MargaretR]

I have found a GEM of a lecture on google video which explains Codex Alimentarius from its origins to the present day. It is 40 minutes long, but well worth a watch if you care about your health. It describes a campaign to resist Codex in USA, and describes an online petition (like mine) to resist codex implementation.
My petition now has over 17,500 signatures.
Petition to: oppose the adoption of the Codex Alimentarius (WHO/UN) proposals for restriction of the presently freely available herb/vitamin/mineral food supplements. | Number10.gov.uk
This video is not full of techno jargon - it will enlighten you

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I have found a GEM of a lecture on google video which explains Codex Alimentarius from its origins to the present day. It is 40 minutes long, but well worth a watch if you care about your health. It describes a campaign to resist Codex in USA, and describes an online petition (like mine) to resist codex implementation.
My petition now has over 17,500 signatures.
Petition to: oppose the adoption of the Codex Alimentarius (WHO/UN) proposals for restriction of the presently freely available herb/vitamin/mineral food supplements. | Number10.gov.uk
This video is not full of techno jargon - it will enlighten you

Well Margaret, as much as I like you, 40 minutes watchng a lecture on health, ain't my cuppa at all, sorryyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[MargaretR]

I thought that its origin from an idea by a convicted (Nurenburg) nazi might arouse some interest