Comment Please

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

I'm not sure that there's a trend in either direction, although Springhill is a Labour stronghold within Hyndburn. I would like to think that the majority of British Muslims would be against what happened on Thursday, much the same as the Koran-burning idiots in America were reviled by most Christians.

What has annoyed me is the cover-up, presumably based on that most powerful of all words, 'racism'. The government (of whichever colour) invites future problems by ignoring instances like this and not coming down equally hard on Muslims as well as Christians. What's sauce for the goose should be sauce for the gander and at the moment it isn't.

There's no two ways about it, racism still only works one way in Great Britain.

Ok ... I was just curious, because over here, recent immigrants tend to vote Liberal or NDP. The First Nations tend to vote Conservative. I guess I was just trying to get a feeling for voting patterns among British minorities.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Looks like you may be right.

I did nibble the odd petal whilst waiting, bored, but it looks life the rest of blooms are safe.

I don't know what came over me.

Having the cheek to demand that those closet to us in the chain of government, offered a little guidance, and leadership, in the hope that the few wouldn't tarnish the whole. Asking for things...it's akin to bullying. I apologise most humbly to our elected representatives.

Then again, perhaps it was just anger because today's Remembrance Sunday, and the day I see my mum annually broken-hearted and in tears, for the father who never got to hold her in his arms as a baby, or even see her. Him being killed a few months before her birth.

Silly me for thinking that politicians should notice that the electorate are sick and fed up of the silence, that follows outrage, after outrage, carried out in the name of religion, by evil bigots who primary desire is to curtail the freedoms we enjoy, and our country fought for.

I think if anyone had the gumption, and organised a rally, in little over a week after the poppy burning happened, and brought the community together, in an inter, and no faith demonstration, that things like the Remembrance Day Burn in Hell 'protest', was carried out by a few, and not the many, and 'Not in Our Name', a great deal could have been achieved in helping to heal the wounds these scum have caused.

Nevermind.

At least my freakin' hat still has some life left in it.

There should be no need to have any sort of rally if the police did their job, by their actions these yobs were breaking the law, in fact probably more than one law, so why were they not arrested and charged accordingly, if the boot had been on the other foot and the indigenous population had burnt copies of the Koran and carried signs saying Islam harbours murderers, their feet wouldn't have touched the floor before seeing the inside of a cell

[Wynonie Harris]

Still no comment from the various councillors who are Accyweb members. Why does that not surprise me?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

There should be no need to have any sort of rally if the police did their job, by their actions these yobs were breaking the law, in fact probably more than one law, so why were they not arrested and charged accordingly, if the boot had been on the other foot and the indigenous population had burnt copies of the Koran and carried signs saying Islam harbours murderers, their feet wouldn't have touched the floor before seeing the inside of a cell

I think a local demonstration would be a very good way of showing that the majority of people don't support the few mad extremists.

It would help show the borough, which has a large Muslim population, in a better light than any so called community art event, or a thousand kids, having a day off school to extol the benefits of recycling, both of which H.B.C. were keen to give time and money to make happen.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Still no comment from the various councillors who are Accyweb members. Why does that not surprise me?

You are demanding.

Making comment, and seeking comment from others.

You'll be accused of being a cyber bully.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

There should be no need to have any sort of rally if the police did their job, by their actions these yobs were breaking the law, in fact probably more than one law, so why were they not arrested and charged accordingly, if the boot had been on the other foot and the indigenous population had burnt copies of the Koran and carried signs saying Islam harbours murderers, their feet wouldn't have touched the floor before seeing the inside of a cell

The police, like politicans, and the media are afraid of offending any minority group, because of their patronising, wooly minded liberalism.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

I think a local demonstration would be a very good way of showing that the majority of people don't support the few mad extremists.

It would help show the borough, which has a large Muslim population, in a better light than any so called community art event, or a thousand kids, having a day off school to extol the benefits of recycling, both of which H.B.C. were keen to give time and money to make happen.

Would only be of any use if the local Muslim community took part too

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

The police, like politicans, and the media are afraid of offending any minority group, because of their patronising, wooly minded liberalism.

Couldn't agree more G, but this country has more than its fair share of those numpties and its time they were told exactly where to go

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Would only be of any use if the local Muslim community took part too

That's what I'm saying.

Rather than fannying about paying for crocheted 'sculptures' to be hung up in the Market Hall, our elected civic leaders could, in theory, be organising an inter-faith (and no faith) demonstration, showing the world that protests like the poppy burning our not carried out in 'Our Name'.

No one else, is sadly doing it, and although last week's 'protest' happened in London, it does affect people in Hyndburn, and people are hurt, angry, and afraid. It needs leadership skills, that local politicans should be able to provide.

Come on Bernard, we can all see you keep reading this thread, what do you think?

[garinda]

...or any other of our local councillors, including those of the ruling party, and who keep an eye on what's being posted on here.

Any comments most appreciated.

[yerself]

I wonder if the taxi driver mentioned in this article will be allowed to continue plying for hire?
RAF man turned away by Asian cabbie in row over uniform - Yorkshire Post

[Wynonie Harris]

I'm sure Claytonender will be on to give us a comment soon. After all, she did say "extremism in all its forms is very worrying" a few weeks ago, when she was highlighting the problem of rightwing Christians in the US who were threatening to burn the Koran. I've no doubt that she'll be equally outspoken about their Muslim equivalents.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Would only be of any use if the local Muslim community took part too

If local religious leaders haven't the common sense to realise that they should be making a public stand, showing that the majority of Muslims don't think British troops should 'burn in Hell, then local politicans should be helping them to do this.

We have two Muslim councillors, one Labour, the other Conservative, what are they doing to reassure the public?

I watched the protest clip, and being a cynic, didn't believe anyone could be so crass and insensitive, and afterwards, whilst wearing my poppy, in a shop I go into most days, it did make me wonder what the Muslim owner thought about them, and what they represented to them.

Councillors aren't elected just to make sure the streets are swept. They are the nearest tier of government to the people, and in an area with a religiously diverse population, they should be taking the lead.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by yerself

I wonder if the taxi driver mentioned in this article will be allowed to continue plying for hire?
RAF man turned away by Asian cabbie in row over uniform - Yorkshire Post

Disgusting, and yes he should have his licence taken off him.

Anyone whose job deals with the public should not be allowed to practice their own form of discrimination.

What next?

Women travelling alone, unaccompanied by a husband/male relative?

Someone showing bare arms?

A gay couple?

Someone merry with drink?

[Tealeaf]

Originally Posted by garinda

Disgusting, and yes he should have his licence taken off him.

That's assuming he has a license in the first place. He's probably an Iraqi Asylum seeker, working under false I.D.