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[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by garinda

This is nothing to do with race!

Some councillor in the Midlands can condemn the actions of a few vile idiots, but our local politicans are too afraid to speak out, for fear of being labelled, and losing their seats?

This is a very sad state of affairs.

Besides the protest happening in London, it has very real relevance to Hyndburn, and other than Ken, no one is prepared to start healing the hurt.

Pathetic.

Might as well hang out the white flags.

We're a lost cause.

I can't speak for them and wouldn't presume to, it was merely an indicator of how the situation itself could be a hot potato for some and not of my fellow councillors' attitudes.

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

So, in other words, they have to stay politically correct (in the worst sense of the phrase) to avoid problems with the party heirarchy. I think that says quite a lot about what's wrong with modern day politics.

Incidentally, Ken, the fact that you're prepared to "put your head in the noose" is what makes you so refeshingly different from "normal" politicians. I just hope Harriet doesn't get wind of it!

Again, I am not speaking in any way for Bernard and Joan, just pointing out that racial/religious issues can be viewed in the worst possible light even when the intentions are good.

As for me, ask me whatever you like. My derriere is primed.....

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

I will then.

First off, the very fact that there's such a position as 'cabinet member for Community Cohesion', is divise, and encourages separatism, and certainly not cohesion. So it's ultimately pointless.

Secondly, you are doing a God damned awful job here in Hyndburn.

'Increase respect between all those who live, work or visit the borough'
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...ion_Report.pdf

As I say, you're doing a terrible job.

Besides never having read such politically correct, meaningless guff, in all my life, contained in your 'Community Cohesion Guide 2008- 201'.

Roll on 2012!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Again, I am not speaking in any way for Bernard and Joan, just pointing out that racial/religious issues can be viewed in the worst possible light even when the intentions are good.

As for me, ask me whatever you like. My derriere is primed.....

There's more than the just the two councillors you named, who are members of this forum.

None of them are prepared to speak out, and condemn the disrespect caused by the poppy burning.

It's just occurred to me, I hope they aren't staying silent because they think there might be local support for the poppy burners.

Then we really would be in trouble.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Again, I am not speaking in any way for Bernard and Joan, just pointing out that racial/religious issues can be viewed in the worst possible light even when the intentions are good.

As for me, ask me whatever you like. My derriere is primed.....

Seems a poor do to me when a Labour MP of Asian origin, perhaps even a Muslim, can condemn in the most uncompromising terms, as I posted in an earlier thread, but local Labour councillors don't have the bottle to speak out.

Anyway, Ken, you just keep on sharing your views with us...until the men from Transport House come round to "have a word"!

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Seems a poor do to me when a Labour MP of Asian origin, perhaps even a Muslim, can condemn in the most uncompromising terms, as I posted in an earlier thread, but local Labour councillors don't have the bottle to speak out.

Perhaps its the reason many cannot be bothered anymore to vote? or at least one of em. i'm venturing to deepest Rishton this morning, me documents are in order, hope me safety can be guaranteed?

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by cashman

Perhaps its the reason many cannot be bothered anymore to vote? or at least one of em. i'm venturing to deepest Rishton this morning, me documents are in order, hope me safety can be guaranteed?

Just been onto border patrols, they have orders to let you in.

Wipe your feet on the way in, please.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Wipe your feet on the way in, please.

...and wipe them even better, on the way out.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Just been onto border patrols, they have orders to let you in.

Wipe your feet on the way in, please.

Surely that should be on the way out

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Seems a poor do to me when a Labour MP of Asian origin, perhaps even a Muslim, can condemn in the most uncompromising terms, as I posted in an earlier thread, but local Labour councillors don't have the bottle to speak out.

Anyway, Ken, you just keep on sharing your views with us...until the men from Transport House come round to "have a word"!

If Labour gain control Wyn you will notice a drying up of opinions on here, believe me

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Surely that should be on the way out

Being a former political agent for a certain someone, you must be used to coming a close second.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

If Labour gain control Wyn you will notice a drying up of opinions on here, believe me

Meaning the Conservatives would be more vocal in opposition?

Oh goodie.

[Bernard Dawson]

I haven't commented before because I agree with most of what' s been said. I'm just a bit disappointed that because someone hasn't commented they are presumed by some to have a different opinion.

Can i also say that on Remembrance Day in the morning i was in Oak Hill Park laying a wreath in the morning. In the afternoon I was in Ossy for the Remembarence day parade.Last Thursday I was outside the town hall for Remembrance Day itself

I mention these, not to seek praise, but because I think it's right that we remember those that I've given their lives for this Country.And we should never forget that sacrifice.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Meaning the Conservatives would be more vocal in opposition?

Oh goodie.

Don't hold your breathe G

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

I haven't commented before because I agree with most of what' s been said. I'm just a bit disappointed that because someone hasn't commented they are presumed by some to have a different opinion.

You're a member of a major political party, albeit at a local level, so you're one of the few connections we've got with the world of mainstream politics. We're, therefore, interested in your opinion.

The intrigue is also heightened by the fact that the media, especially the leftwing media, have swept the matter under the carpet, presumably in the hope that it'll go away. Unfortunately, it won't and if moderate, reasonable politicians like yourself don't speak out about it, you're leaving the way wide open for rightwing extremists to vent their bile on the guilty and the innocent alike, simply because of their race. So, take a leaf out of Ken's book and let's be hearing from you!