Commitee? - Page 2

accymel · 09-09-2005, 11:27

I hear what you are saying Willow but really committees require a lot of commitment & time to attend meetings, do minutes etc, not everyone is the position to do that & does have the feeling of exclusion to others, ie using school eg; you have a select few that organise & do these meetings & although changes do happen, as i get letters about things organised there is a limit to what i can do & things dont tend to become knowledge until committee members decide. Our ex pats would feel that they couldn't offer anything or be at these meetings & would have to wait until an edited format was posted on updates of discussions, so it does exclude them to a point & this is whats been brought up on another thread about making Accyweb & its support available to all.

WillowTheWhisp · 09-09-2005, 11:28

OK, let's all do nothing. It's much easier.

I still think you had a good idea Mez but accept that I'm in a minority.

WillowTheWhisp · 09-09-2005, 11:30

Just one quick question though - do ex-pats feel the AccyWeb "meets" are cliquey and exclusive? Does anyone resent Mez for organising them?

Gayle · 09-09-2005, 11:31

The problem with committees, and I know because I sit on enough of them, is that you often find yourself in a lose-lose situation.

There is no way, with an organisation as big as Accy web that you can please all the people all the time so most of the time people would find themselves annoyed at what the committee was doing in its name. Then there's the committee itself who will end up doing all the work with people shouting at them all the time because it's not what they wanted to happen.

Gayle · 09-09-2005, 11:33

Sorry, I shouldn't be negative about it. I wouldn't want to sit on an Accyweb committee but wouldn't object to anyone else forming one. I just wanted to point out the drawbacks.

accymel · 09-09-2005, 11:35

Yeh my point exactly there Gayle, I think Mez has brought up the topic but i think she was implying a less official method of keeping it open on here.

Gayle · 09-09-2005, 11:40

I think it might work if you had a committe for the carnival float, for example. That group could meet to discuss that specific thing and it wouldn't be much of an issue because consultation could happen through threads and then the committee could make the decisions and take action.

I don't think it would work if you had one fixed committee who did all this sort of stuff because that's where the officialdom starts kicking in and causing problems.

WillowTheWhisp · 09-09-2005, 11:41

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Originally Posted by accystanmac

a less official method of keeping it open on here.

............which still doesn't seem too well received. Yet if nobody does anything how will things like a carnival float etc get organised? Or would you rather we didn't have one if everybody can't be involved?

I just think it's a shame that good ideas slip away because there's nobody actually up and doing. Hence the Arndale clock thing sliding into oblivion. All we ever do sometimes is talk about things and go round and round in repetitive circles.

We talk about AccyWeb meets but then Mez is the one who gets up and goes out and organises them. If she didn't we wouldn't have them. Posting about thngs is all very well but some things also require physical actions.

WillowTheWhisp · 09-09-2005, 11:51

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Originally Posted by Gayle Knight

I think it might work if you had a committe for the carnival float, for example. That group could meet to discuss that specific thing and it wouldn't be much of an issue because consultation could happen through threads and then the committee could make the decisions and take action.

The discussing could take place on the board, it's the actions that would need to be done at a committee type level - things such as getting the vehicle and planning when it is going to be decorated etc, even where to meet up to get on it. Then again, who would be on it and will people who aren't on it accuse those who are on it of being a clique? It's a minefield.

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Originally Posted by Gayle Knight

I don't think it would work if you had one fixed committee who did all this sort of stuff because that's where the officialdom starts kicking in and causing problems.

Which is why it would be good to have different groups doing different things - Fireman suggested voluntary work for the community at one time but I don't think anything was ever organised about that. Without organisation things just don't happen.

accymel · 09-09-2005, 11:52

Thing is Willow some people are do-ers & some people are creative on ideas its what makes us truelly individual

I dont think Mez has put herself up for this anyway & twas a discussion of idea's, if people want to do something they do & theres those that dont, its the way of life & its a hard job being a Citizen Smith.

garinda · 09-09-2005, 11:52

Have kept out of this until now. No offence to Mez, but I think it's a daft idea, except for the carnival planning like Gayle said.

This is a forum, I think there's already enough infrastructure in place for people that want to make a difference and get things changed.

Any organised commitee could never be representative of the members here.

Never having being a team player myself, I prefer to do things that I think need addressing under my own steam.

Like Willow said, what happened to all the excited good intentions re: wrist bands and ribbons?

Gayle · 09-09-2005, 11:54

Wrist band application form was sent in - like I said I would. It takes about 12 weeks for these people to assess funding applications. I did say at the time it would take a while.

Please be patient.

garinda · 09-09-2005, 11:55

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Originally Posted by Gayle Knight

Wrist band application form was sent in - like I said I would. It takes about 12 weeks for these people to assess funding applications. I did say at the time it would take a while.

Please be patient.

Thanks Gayle.

WillowTheWhisp · 09-09-2005, 11:55

You could probably equally argue that no carnival float could be representative of everyone here either so maybe it would be better not to have one than risk upsetting anybody?

garinda · 09-09-2005, 12:01

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

You could probably equally argue that no carnival float could be representative of everyone here either so maybe it would be better not to have one than risk upsetting anybody?

No, but it would have to be ok'd by Roy, and I'm sure that anyone who wanted to be involved would be welcomed.

When it come's to political direct action, I think that this is something that isn't really the job of a forum.

We are all capable of picking up a phone if something we read concerns us enough to act upon, without having to band together under a non representative banner.