Common Law - Page 3

MargaretR · 06-11-2011, 19:57

From what little I learned from reading about 'The Freeman on the Land' movement, a parking fine is imposed under 'statute law' which has never been subject to any democratic vote.

I am not an expert on the topic - law is a very devious and complex topic.
The 'freemen' also complain about 'maritime law' being applied (and not just for law at sea)

davemac · 06-11-2011, 20:43

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Originally Posted by Benipete

I Always work on the premise that If I have done wrong I hold my hand up and take the consequences.

Pay the parking Fine I f you were in the wrong.

but who says he was in the wrong, who says what speed we can safely go on any stretch of road. Has common sense given way to doing as we are told, and what to do all the time. why have a 30 mph speed limit on a road for 24 hours a day, it makes sense during the day but what about that same road at 4 in the morning when there are possibly no pedestrians no other cars. Wouldnt it make more sense to say you should drive at the speed that is safe for the conditions that you are driving in. Point in question the M5 tragedy theycould legally drive at70mph but conditions dictate a more prudent speed would be safe

kenny · 06-11-2011, 21:31

Hiya AddyB, Sorry, you couldnt be more wrong, ANY STATUTE, STATUTORY IMPLEMENT, etc, is a CONTRACT between the Imposer of the STATUTE and the Poor Sod on the receiving end, thus, (and this is the main reason for so many folks in the UK being in "debt"),

IF THE RECIPIENT OF ANY ONE OF THESE STATUTES DECLINES THE "OFFER" THEN THE STATUTE BECOMES NULL AND VOID.
Can I suggest (politely of course) that you check out the Magna Carta of 1215 and The Bill of Rights 1688/9
NO MAN SHALL SUFFER - Loss
Injury
or Harm
It is straight forward and UNDERSTANDABLE that covers the ENTIRE scope.

This Common Law is NOT BEING APPLIED by Politicians,Judges, and ESPECIALLY THE PRIVATELY RUN, "COURTS De FACTO" that are masquerading as "COURTS De JUSTI"

And, as for the "POLICE" check this out London Metropolitan Police "LTD"

Just before the last election, if you had checked out the "UK TREASURY" (you know the one that gave ALL OUR money to the banks) on 'Dun and Bradstreet' or 'Companies House' (now Duport) you would have seen -- HM Treasury Alistair Darling "LTD"

Also House of Commons "LTD" Did you know that the CSA (child Support Agency) have 11, YES ELEVEN, County Court Judgements against them ?
And EVEN the "HOUSE OF COMMONS LTD" has got 1 County Court Judgement against them. THE BANK OF ENGLAND "LTD" even the Federal Reserve in the US is a Privately owned Company with Shareholders and A Chairman, and Directors and these that I have mentioned cannot survive without making PROFIT.
The Magistrates are NOT "RUN" by CIVIL SERVANTS, Their AIM is PROFIT,

YOU CANNOT, CANNOT, AMEND, TWIST, REPEAL or TAMPER with COMMON LAW WITHOUT THE WILL OF THE "PEOPLE" and, I DONT recall being asked if I want my beautiful country DEFACED with YELLOW LINES, and that IF my MOTOR VEHICLE dare TOUCH one of said lines I could be dragged in front of the Privateers and suffer "LOSS" of money.
Sorry its a bit long winded but I'm so upset at finding all this sh one t, that I myself find it hard to beleive, but the more I dig the more I find, but it does get even HEAVIER, The STATUTES and so called "LAWS" are NOT LEGAL until BOTH PARTIES AGREE, "well you voted for the mp who decided for you/to represent you" WRONG!!!
ANYONE WHO ATTEMPTS TO UNDERMINE COMMON LAW BY FORCING THE PEOPLE OF THIS KINGDOM TO OBEY A FOREIGN COUNTRY OR ENTITY IS "GUILTY" of TREASON Heath,Blair,Straw, the whole damned lot of them are GUILTY of Treason, IN fact the Latest on this is that a heck of a lot of them have been reported to police stations ALL OVER the UK but, NO action has been forthcoming, well, YOU wouldnt like to shop YOUR paymasters would you? or WOULD YOU?

Michael1954 · 06-11-2011, 23:08

Kenny, do you think all restrictions on parking should be abandoned? I live in Great Harwood and the double yellow lines on Glebe Street are regularly ignored. As result, access can be difficult at times, especially when turning into this street from Queen Street. I just wish that these lines WERE policed and penalties imposed on those who think they are above the law, and you can choose whichever law you like!

Balbus · 07-11-2011, 08:24

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

From what little I learned from reading about 'The Freeman on the Land' movement, a parking fine is imposed under 'statute law' which has never been subject to any democratic vote.

I am not an expert on the topic - law is a very devious and complex topic.
The 'freemen' also complain about 'maritime law' being applied (and not just for law at sea)

All statutes have to be passed by both Houses of Parliament and receive royal approval (a formality). Those statutes may give power to others to make specific rules - e.g. parking regulations (Statutory Instruments). Some of these have to be laid before the House of Commons where any MP may raise objections.

Neil · 07-11-2011, 10:29

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Originally Posted by kenny

but the more I look into this the more I find shocking to say the least, for instance, House of Commons Ltd, EVERY Member of parliament is a Limited Company, Metropolitan Police Ltd, Almost ALL Magistrates Courts are Limited Companies,

Maybe its just that I am not very good using the search on the Companies House website but I cant find any of the companies you mentioned.

Maybe someone else would like to show me what I am doing wrong, here is a link to the site I was using

WebCHeck - Select Search Results

wallop79 · 07-11-2011, 12:00

Companies House Companies House. which no doubt is what you used Neil.
I've typed in house of commons & got result of comp no. 03702814 house of comms ltd, as for met police, various sports clubs come up but not met police themselves

Neil · 07-11-2011, 13:18

So you did not find House of Commons Ltd either just

HOUSE OF COMMS. LIMITED
19 CELIA ROAD
LONDON
N19 5ET

which was incorporated in 1999. It is still looking like the Ltd companies he stated do not exist. I think he has been doing lots of reading and little checking of the facts.

kenny · 07-11-2011, 20:48

Thanks for that Neil,

) Believe me they are there somewhere, The Coalition are'nt going to use the trade name H M Treasury-Alistair Darling Ltd are they, I dont know why Neil, but I feel like you are trying to diss me, have I offended you in any way ? If I have then I apologise,
Meanwhile here are one or three LTD COMPANIES you might be interested in/maybe not.
Check out the secretary/director Alison Mitchell in link 3 her stats are an eye opener, oh and The "Citizens Advice Bureau" are a Private LTD Company, so NO common law advice there then!

Free company financial check on LANCASHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL and free company accounts

Free company financial check on LANCASHIRE COUNTY DEVELOPMENTS LIMITED and free company accounts

Free company financial check on BURNLEY GENERAL HOSPITAL PHASE V SPC HOLDINGS LIMITED and free company accounts

wallop79 · 07-11-2011, 21:20

Kenny ive just emailed you

Benipete · 07-11-2011, 21:32

The thing Is If you want to live In a country that don't have any rules bog off to France.

Neil · 07-11-2011, 23:36

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Originally Posted by kenny

I dont know why Neil, but I feel like you are trying to diss me, have I offended you in any way ? If I have then I apologise

You have not offended me in any way, I just did not find proof of what you were saying.

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Originally Posted by kenny

Free company financial check on LANCASHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL and free company accounts

If you look a little deeper and search companies house for the reg number in your link you will find it is not Lancashire County Council at all but this

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Name & Registered Office:
LANCASHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL CREDIT UNION LTD
Company No. IP00666C

Industrial/Provident (England/Wales)
Public Records Section
Financial Services Authority
25 The North Colonnade
Canary Wharf
London
E14 5HS

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Originally Posted by kenny

Free company financial check on LANCASHIRE COUNTY DEVELOPMENTS LIMITED and free company accounts

LANCASHIRE COUNTY DEVELOPMENTS LIMITED is a company owned by Lancashire Councty Council and is not the Council itself. Have a look at this link Lancashire County Developments Limited | Lancashire County Council

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Originally Posted by kenny

Free company financial check on BURNLEY GENERAL HOSPITAL PHASE V SPC HOLDINGS LIMITED and free company accounts

I could not find out with a quick search but that one looks like the private company that the last government allowed to rip off the NHS and build part of the hospital for them then rent back at silly money PFI I think its called.

I don't know which web site you are getting your info from but you might want to check up on it before posting on here.

Have you found any limited MP's yet? I follow some on twitter that appear to be quite limited

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Originally Posted by kenny

Thanks for that Neil,

) Believe me they are there somewhere

I will believe you when you find me some evidence what you are posting is true and not just copied and pasted from some conspiracy web site

kenny · 08-11-2011, 19:45

Well, I dont know how to reply to Niel, "not just copied from some conspiracy website" ?

So, thats all the .gov sites out of the way for a start,

and what does Neil consider a conspiracy website ?

Is it that if you find a web site, and YOU disagree with what it says, its a "Conspiracy Web site?
Or, if you are too lazy to do your own research, or you havent a clue how to, thats not my problem,
Hows this for a "conspiracy" In 1999 an international investigation of Child Pornographers and Paedophiles (run by Britains National Criminal Intelligence Services) (NCIS) codenaned Operation Ore. FACT!
It resulted in 7,250 suspects in the UK alone. FACT
Some 900 individuals remained under investigation in early 2003. FACT!
British Police began to close in on some top suspects in the Operation Ore investigation Including SENIOR MEMBERS OF BLAIRS GOVERNMENT. FACT!

Now then, I am NOT a conspiracy theorist, but, maybe someone more CLEVERER than me can explain to everyone,

WHY, DID TONY BLAIR WHEN PRIME MINISTER OF THE UK ORDER A 'D' NOTICE, FACT! on this ?

With a TIME LIMIT OF 100 YEARS. FACT!

By the way a 'D' NOTICE is a GAG on every kind of MEDIA that UK citizens have access to, and this particular one will last 100 Years, FACT!

Rules are Rules, be they British OR French, But the poor in Britain "THINK" they are laws!

Since when did "RULES" not"LAWS" cost SO much?