Condoms For Children - Page 3

davo69 · 17-07-2007, 21:08

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

How skewed is society when a school nurse can dole out the morning after pill without a parent knowing, but cannot give paracetamol for a headache.
Haven't we got our values a bit mixed up?

the efects of a headache wont last as long as a unwanted kid

Eric · 17-07-2007, 21:09

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

You can give all the free condoms there are going, but just like the horse taken to water you can not make it drink.

On the other hand, you can't shut the stable door after the horse has bolted. Once a kid has picked up AIDS, handing him/her a condom to help prevent it is a little futile.

Margaret Pilkington · 17-07-2007, 21:10

So far Lindsay neither of those measures appears to be working very well.

Lilly · 17-07-2007, 21:20

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

How skewed is society when a school nurse can dole out the morning after pill without a parent knowing, but cannot give paracetamol for a headache.
Haven't we got our values a bit mixed up?

That puzzles me too Margaret

.I remember a story in the paper a couple of years ago where a member of school staff arranged an abortion for pupil without informing her parents and the member of staff was within the law to do so! Madness.

lindsay ormerod · 17-07-2007, 21:22

Gotta agree there Marg, a lot of it has go to be down to parenting or the lack of. I am not religious myself but I have my principles and I have explained to my child that I expect better of her than to end up pushing 2 kids round Accy in a buggy by the time she is 16. That may not meet wholesale approval on here but that's just my opinion, she is a bright kid and I want her to realise her full potential.

WillowTheWhisp · 17-07-2007, 21:26

It meets with my approval Lindsay.

In my day any girl who'd put it about a bit was not really respected by any of the lads nor taken seriously as a girlfriend that they would take home to Mum.

LYNX1 · 17-07-2007, 22:15

It's a shame ... but nowadays there seems to be more girls up for it than there used to be .......... they don't have the same pride in themselves and think it's the only way to be accepted.

SamF · 17-07-2007, 22:18

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Originally Posted by Lilly

That puzzles me too Margaret

.I remember a story in the paper a couple of years ago where a member of school staff arranged an abortion for pupil without informing her parents and the member of staff was within the law to do so! Madness.

And that's so bad ?

How about a young girl being made to keep a child by parents - and not being able to cope.

Kids have sex. Because it's fun. Give them free contraception and less will get pregnant, diseased etc. Being given a condom isn't suddenly going to turn a model catholic into the town bike. No matter how much you lot would like to think, kids can make their own decisions. And they can be just as good (or obviously as bad) as an adults.

Full education, easy availabilty of contraceptives and the rest is up to them, it's their lives after all.

garinda · 17-07-2007, 22:36

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Originally Posted by SamF

Kids have sex.

Some maybe, but not all, and those that do under the age of sixteen are breaking the law.

SamF · 17-07-2007, 22:46

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Originally Posted by garinda

Some maybe, but not all, and those that do under the age of sixteen are breaking the law.

I'd say the majority of children by the age of 16 have had sex. I'd actually go as far as saying the vast majority. Breaking the law isn't even an issue. I'm trying not to come across as mean I'm just telling the truth, perhaps a some what blunt way.

panther · 18-07-2007, 09:47

I would agree to this but my daughters 13and i cant imagine her having sex had that age!!!!

my daughters got a good head on her shoulders, and i know for a fact shes not having sex, i have always been open about this subject to her and always tell her, if you are not ready then just say no, if they come out with the bull**** about..."if you love me....." then dump em, cuz if they loved you they would respect ya and wait

i always say to her being a virgin is cool, and that she will get loads of respect!!

lancsdave · 18-07-2007, 09:55

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Originally Posted by SamF

No matter how much you lot would like to think, kids can make their own decisions. And they can be just as good (or obviously as bad) as an adults.

Full education, easy availabilty of contraceptives and the rest is up to them, it's their lives after all.

And of course you will be telling us they know everything there is to know about life so no guidance or advice is needed from adults

jambutty · 18-07-2007, 12:37

Here’s another old fogey that agrees with your views Margaret Pilkington and WillowTheWhisp.

Eric · 18-07-2007, 13:31

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

And of course you will be telling us they know everything there is to know about life so no guidance or advice is needed from adults

I think that you are confusing "life" with "sex". There is much more to life than sex, altho' when you are young and your hormones are raging, it is hard to see this point. I also get the sense throughout this thread that there is a gender bias ... for some reason it seems that people think early sex is worse for girls than boys. Probably because of the pregnancy aspect ... but, because a young person, by accident of birth, is the one that concieves and bears the child, should not be a factor in a debate about sexuality in young people ... in a discussion of teenage pregnancy and the responsibility questions surrounding it, it's ok., but it is a separate question.

BERNADETTE · 18-07-2007, 15:22

I think prevention at all costs, young people are having sex, so if we can avoid one teenage pregnancy then free condoms are the right way to go. It is all well and good to say it is illegal to have sex under the age of sixteen, that doesn't stop it happening as a walk round our streets shows.