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21-03-2010, 11:06
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
Jaysay, as Bernie says...
Anyway, I'm only taking this job on, because you won't help her. It's a thankless task, but somebody's got to do it.
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Considering she's now had one of her six weeks to make her presence known to the electorate in the constituency, along with her thoughts, ideas, and plans for our future, she's kept a suprisingly low profile.
The only things we know about her, are the few things posted on her website, besides what's been uncovered by helpful posters in this thread.
As she heads into the last month or so of campaigning, let's hope she'll become more visible, and vocal. So we can then make up our own minds up, and decide whether she's worthy of our votes.
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21-03-2010, 11:06
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
You can't keep spending money you haven't got, its a recipe for disaster, if your in a hole stop digging, but as usual Labour never have to clear up their own mess, if Brown actually won the election he would be biting his fingernails if not chewing his finger off altogether, because he firmly believes he'll walk of into the sunset and be forgotten
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21-03-2010, 11:08
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
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Originally Posted by garinda
Considering she's now had one of her six weeks to make her presence known to the electorate in the constituency, along with her thoughts, ideas, and plans for our future, she's kept a suprisingly low profile.
The only things we know about her, are the few things posted on her website, besides what's been uncovered by helpful posters in this thread.
As she heads into the last month or so of campaigning, let's hope she'll become more visible, and vocal. So we can then make up our own minds up, and decide whether she's worthy of our votes.
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Not much good to Wyn though, unless being a Stanley fan gets you a vote
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21-03-2010, 11:26
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
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Originally Posted by garinda
The only things we know about her, are the few things posted on her website, besides what's been uncovered by helpful posters in this thread.
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I for one didn't realise homosexuality could be cured, by means of an exorcism, in Baptist churches in Lytham St. Annes.
You live and learn.
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21-03-2010, 11:57
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
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Originally Posted by garinda
I for one didn't realise homosexuality could be cured, by means of an exorcism, in Baptist churches in Lytham St. Annes.
You live and learn.
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Ah, well the coastal areas are rife with 'em, (it's something to do with the smell of the ozone, ask any sailor), obviously if they aren't cured there will not be enough descendants to find their roots in the industrial towns of the north and we won't have the chance of decent representation, after all, we have suffered many years of in-breeding to stamp this sort of thing out, so what chance have we got of a local hero that can throw two sentences together?
Just remind your loved ones not to take sweets from strangers.
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21-03-2010, 13:42
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
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I dont believe they will choose an outsider for that reason. Only one person can win this. I believe i know who.
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http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post775651
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I also feel he wont be the one chosen., I have have a feeling who will be though, lets wait and see.
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http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post721901
Did you place a bet on Karen Buckley being the successful Conservative candidate?
You must be laughing all the way to the bank, as you probably got very good odds.
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21-03-2010, 16:59
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
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Originally Posted by jaysay
Not much good to Wyn though, unless being a Stanley fan gets you a vote
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Ah yes, I keep forgetting, you don't like outsiders getting involved, do you?
"Yuh not from round these parts are yuh, boy?"
(Cue: banjos)
Incidentally, I'm as much "from Cheshire" as your mate, Councillor Britcliffe is "from Ossy".
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21-03-2010, 18:05
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
For those of us worried about this thread not being reverential enough, I thought we'd pack away the Spitting Image puppets back into the toy cupboard, for a suitable period of time. Which would give some people time to ponder their less than deferential tone, and I'd then pretty the thread up with a lovely floral display, just in case Ms. Buckley happens to pop by.
(I've even given the whole thread a good spray with Fabreeze, so it's smelling sweetly floral, and without a whiff of ironic satire left.)
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21-03-2010, 18:27
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
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Originally Posted by garinda
For those of us worried about this thread not being reverential enough, I thought we'd pack away the Spitting Image puppets back into the toy cupboard, for a suitable period of time. Which would give some people time to ponder their less than deferential tone, and I'd then pretty the thread up with a lovely floral display, just in case Ms. Buckley happens to pop by.
(I've even given the whole thread a good spray with Fabreeze, so it's smelling sweetly floral, and without a whiff of ironic satire left.)
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If I had a carpet I'd do the shake and vac'
Not much point though really, if she appeared on my doorstep and I invited her in she probably wouldn't know how to drink tea out of a mug.
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21-03-2010, 18:55
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
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If I had a carpet I'd do the shake and vac'
Not much point though really, if she appeared on my doorstep and I invited her in she probably wouldn't know how to drink tea out of a mug.
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Have a little Faith.
Just because you can't actually see, or physically hear someone, doesn't mean that they're not here.
He works in mysterious ways. His disciples might similarly follow His way.
'...the ever-vain Cllr Britcliffe Googles his own name on a regular basis.'
Peter Britcliffe | Political Scrapbook
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22-03-2010, 01:22
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
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Originally Posted by steeljack
Will disagree with you on a couple of points , if people were living in such misery and explotation in the "bad old days" how do you explain the rise of the seaside resorts like Blackpool, Morcambe etc. in Lancashire and other similar resorts along the Yorksire coast , these weren't built just for the "Bosses" they were designed and built around the same time the building boom of terraced streets in the Mill towns for the skilled working masses.
Re. the "poverty" of the housing stock at the time , I'm thinking most of the Mill workers who were drawn to work in the cotton towns appreciated the chance to live in a terraced house with an outside lavatory (most probably a tippler type) much better than the one room mud hovels most of the migrating mill workers who came from in Scotland and Ireland ,and looking back took a damn sight more pride in them than they do today,
I'm thinking if you look back through various threads which mention the older Big Houses(Villas/Mansions) where the big bad nasty bosses lived you can see that in Accrington many were in areas adjacent and abutting terraced streets , which seems a bit more democratic to what we see today .
My own opinion is the "rot" started in the days after WW2 , British industry carried on using the same old crap machinery and methods as had been in use from the turn of the century , example ...Germany had to re-build its entire steel industry , what hadn't been bombed was shipped east as reparations to the Russians , so what did the enlightened British politicians do ... they sold the Germans brand new steel plants ,built in antiquated British plants , then wondered why the German industry was more efficient than the British, same thing happened with other industries, post-war politicians cut the throats of the British workers to "create" the social society we see the results of today.
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Anyway Pops, the very real poverty than meant a vitamin deficient diet, and the resulting Rickets, may have been a blessing for you, and your siblings.
However, sadly, in the 'good old days' it wasn't possible for everyone to go onto the Music Hall stage, and make a good living, whilst performing as the Cutie Pie Clog Dancin' Cripples.
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22-03-2010, 01:27
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
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Originally Posted by garinda
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Re: the seaside resorts.
Besides mentioning the date Bolton won the first F.A. Cup at Wembley, I was refering to a time pre-workers rights, and before holiday entitlements were given, which directly gave rise to the resorts on the coast.
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ignoring the sarcasm about "t'cole ole" and the year Bolton won the first FA Cup , the point I was trying to make was .... I find it a bit odd that Blackpool Tower opened to the public in May 1894 , obviously a leisure market had been seen a few years earlier to set up such a project. Yet at the same time the folks who un-shackled the great un-washed from years of exploitation ( think thats one of the Labour Party's claims to the nations history) didn't put any candidates up for election till the following year " In the 1895 general election, the Independent Labour Party put up 28 candidates but won only 44,325 votes. Keir Hardie, the leader of the party, believed that to obtain success in parliamentary elections, it would be necessary to join with other left-wing groups." (Wikipedia) . So obiviously things/life before the "creation" of the Labour party wasn't as bad as the "freedom fighting spouting socialists" say ,especially for the workers the Lancashire Mill towns .
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22-03-2010, 08:47
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
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ignoring the sarcasm about "t'cole ole" and the year Bolton won the first FA Cup , the point I was trying to make was .... I find it a bit odd that Blackpool Tower opened to the public in May 1894 , obviously a leisure market had been seen a few years earlier to set up such a project. Yet at the same time the folks who un-shackled the great un-washed from years of exploitation ( think thats one of the Labour Party's claims to the nations history) didn't put any candidates up for election till the following year " In the 1895 general election, the Independent Labour Party put up 28 candidates but won only 44,325 votes. Keir Hardie, the leader of the party, believed that to obtain success in parliamentary elections, it would be necessary to join with other left-wing groups." (Wikipedia) . So obiviously things/life before the "creation" of the Labour party wasn't as bad as the "freedom fighting spouting socialists" say ,especially for the workers the Lancashire Mill towns .
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Oh I see what you're trying to do now, make a political point! Doh.
If you wanted a political history, rather than a personal one, you just had to say, then we needn't go down the wrong cobbled street.
The rise of the traditional Victorian seaside resorts. This boom started in the 1870's. One of the reasons was the passing of the 1871 Bank Holiday Act, which gave workers a few days paid holidays off each year. This was introduced by Liberal politican, Sir John Lubbock.
The pre-industrial revolution Wakes Week festival was incorportated into the working year by the mill owners, as a time when machines could be cleaned and overhauled. Mill workers had a week, or two weeks unpaid holiday. Each town had differing weeks off, giving rise to a summer 'season' for the Lancashire resorts. By the 1870's there was of course a reliable, regular, and relatively affordable railway service. Though the hotels that were newly opened mainly served the white collar workers.
Conclusion.
If someone needs everything to be viewed through party political eyes, workers lives were affected, and in some case bettered, before the foundation of the Labour party.
Now don't break that poor donkey's back, when you get on him.
You're a big lad now.
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22-03-2010, 08:55
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
On a personal note, I know as fact none of my sixteen great grandparents, all textile workers from this area, took their Wakes holidays in the new resort's hotels. Though some did have occasional days out to the coast, organised by the church Sunday schools.
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22-03-2010, 09:22
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Re: Conservative candidate named.
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On a personal note, I know as fact none of my sixteen great grandparents, all textile workers from this area, took their Wakes holidays in the new resort's hotels. Though some did have occasional days out to the coast, organised by the church Sunday schools.
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Should read 'great, great grandparents'.
I was trying to work out when the majority of that generation of my family would be of working age.
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