Conservative Parliamentary Selection

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by g jones

John Moss is interesting. Believes abortion shouldn't free on the NHS, Council house rents should be raised to private sector levels (£64 to £95 in Hyndburn) amongst a general attack on social housing (Clearly hasn't seen private rented sector in Hyndburn yet). Council housing creates slum estates and unemployment now is higher than ever before and seems to say it is Labour lies why the press aren't picking up on this fact. He also seems to have a swipe against global warming regarding sea levels.

I'll give Peter Britcliffe credit. He was spot on when he said he believed the scientists were right and we should act now. He said to the doubters a simple message, why take a chance when we are heading towards an energy crises anyway. There is little harm in being safe and wrong. There is a lot wrong with being wreckless and wrong.

He might be intresting to you Graham, but certainly ain't to me, I had a letter from CCO on Friday saying they had taken over the section process, in return they're getting a letter from me telling them where to stick the Party, so rest assured your one vote better off now, as I won't be suportin any candidate imposed on us including Mrs Story, you asked me if my promises to resign if a candidates list was imposted on Hyndburn was cast iron, now you'v got your answer.

[g jones]

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

Dear me, Cllr Jones, are you still at it? It beats me how a chap with your obvious intelligence can still spout the party line with a straight face. And no, the idiot-in-chief did not get it right. There is plenty of harm in being safe and wrong. The priciple harm will be to the economy; you know, the goose that lays the golden egg, that enables socialist politicians to go on spending without a care for the size of the bill or who has to foot it.

I don't want to thread drift. The economics of greenness are as you say uneconomic on the face of it. So it will impact as the debate has stood so far.

However there are other costs not being debated. The hidden costs of nuclear and dealing with radioactive material. The cost of the National Grid. That energy is lost in long transmission of electricity and there is an informed view that local grids produce cheaper electricity (but we do not have local grids I know).

Back on thread. Welcome Karen, welcome John. I look forward to seeing the winner at the British Legion hustings.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

He might be intresting to you Graham, but certainly ain't to me, I had a letter from CCO on Friday saying they had taken over the section process, in return they're getting a letter from me telling them where to stick the Party, so rest assured your one vote better off now, as I won't be suportin any candidate imposed on us including Mrs Story, you asked me if my promises to resign if a candidates list was imposted on Hyndburn was cast iron, now you'v got your answer.

I know you must be disappointed, but I admire your stance as a man of principle, and doing what you said you'd do.

Whoever is selected will now have a harder journey if local people, who've devoted much of their lives to politics, aren't there to assist them.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

If only the Conservative party had got their act together, and we didn't have to wait until March 13th, we could be entering into a meaningful dialogue with the chosen candidate, which we've been able to do with the other party's candidates for the last few months.

Not long to go now....fingers crossed.

Wasn't a matter of the CP getting it act together, it was CCO playing sily begers, how somebody sat in a London office knows what kind of candidate is needed here is beyond me. I wrote to Party Chairman Eric Pickles in Jan regarding the subject, the reply I got was abismal to say the least. I only hope whoever gets the nomination has plenty of outside help as they'll be getting nothing from local members who have been stitched up

[g jones]

Originally Posted by jaysay

He might be intresting to you Graham, but certainly ain't to me, I had a letter from CCO on Friday saying they had taken over the section process, in return they're getting a letter from me telling them where to stick the Party, so rest assured your one vote better off now, as I won't be suportin any candidate imposed on us including Mrs Story, you asked me if my promises to resign if a candidates list was imposted on Hyndburn was cast iron, now you'v got your answer.

We may have had our differences but I would encourage you to rejoin. The Conservative Party needs you (and not in a desperate sense but an honest one).

I may disagree with Conservatism most of the time but unlike non voters and everything is wrong (but I'm doing nothing about it) political heretics, Conservatives are passionate about the place they live and that is a positive thing.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by jaysay

He might be intresting to you Graham, but certainly ain't to me, I had a letter from CCO on Friday saying they had taken over the section process, in return they're getting a letter from me telling them where to stick the Party, so rest assured your one vote better off now, as I won't be suportin any candidate imposed on us including Mrs Story, you asked me if my promises to resign if a candidates list was imposted on Hyndburn was cast iron, now you'v got your answer.

A political type who keeps his word. Respect to you, John. Karma sent.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Wasn't a matter of the CP getting it act together, it was CCO playing sily begers, how somebody sat in a London office knows what kind of candidate is needed here is beyond me. I wrote to Party Chairman Eric Pickles in Jan regarding the subject, the reply I got was abismal to say the least. I only hope whoever gets the nomination has plenty of outside help as they'll be getting nothing from local members who have been stitched up

I agree.

It would have been a much closer battle, two locals, the leader of the couuncil going head to head with the leader of the opposition.

Going against the grass root support doesn't seem very democratic.

You might not believe me, but I am disappointed for you.

A well known local candidate will have a major advantage, rather than someone shipped in from outside, who doesn't understand the area, or it's people.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by g jones

We may have had our differences but I would encourage you to rejoin. The Conservative Party needs you (and not in a desperate sense but an honest one).

I may disagree with Conservatism most of the time but unlike non voters and everything is wrong (but I'm doing nothing about it) political heretics, Conservatives are passionate about the place they live and that is a positive thing.

Politics is about working together within the party system Graham which I'm sure I don't need to tell you, but when people based 230miles away won't listen to local knowledge, its time to jack it in, I've been an active party member since I was 16 and at 63 and in very poor health I think its time to call it a day, when the party stops listening its time to say goodbye

[Acrylic-bob]

I'm sorry to keep labouring the point (pun noticed but ignored), but I really do think that while a local candidate might keep the more inbred "he might be useless but, at least he's one of our own" faction mollified. it does nothing for the borough if said local candidate just sits on the backbenches and does what Greg Pope and his predecessors have done for the last forty odd years. We need someone with a bit of umph and, dare I say it, personality. Someone who stands out and through whom the borough can get itself noticed. Currently the rest of the country is only aware of Accrington as the home of the 'Pals' and the bricks, in case no one has noticed, the 'Pals' are all dead and so is the brickworks.

And I'm sorry but, even though Ms Storey might be quite a nice person really, do we really want to project an image of the borough that is parochial, overweight and style challenged???

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

I'm sorry to keep labouring the point (pun noticed but ignored), but I really do think that while a local candidate might keep the more inbred "he might be useless but, at least he's one of our own" faction mollified. it does nothing for the borough if said local candidate just sits on the backbenches and does what Greg Pope and his predecessors have done for the last forty odd years. We need someone with a bit of umph and, dare I say it, personality. Someone who stands out and through whom the borough can get itself noticed. Currently the rest of the country is only aware of Accrington as the home of the 'Pals' and the bricks, in case no one has noticed, the 'Pals' are all dead and so is the brickworks.

And I'm sorry but, even though Ms Storey might be quite a nice person really, do we really want to project an image of the borough that is parochial, overweight and style challenged???

You'd prefer a more high profile politican, someone like Jack Straw?

Personally I'd be happy for whoever it is to be working hard for the people of the borough, period, and it doesn't necessarily follow that a cabinet minister would do that any better than a back bencher. Indeed they might have less time to work on behalf of the borough.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

You'd prefer a more high profile politican, someone like Jack Straw?

Personally I'd be happy for whoever it is to be working hard for the people of the borough, period, and it doesn't necessarily follow that a cabinet minister would do that any better than a back bencher. Indeed they might have less time to work on behalf of the borough.

I totally agree with you Rindi, sod the career politicians, who only want miniserial jobs then leave the office staff to do their constituency work, doesn't fly with me

[Acrylic-bob]

I was thinking of someone more along the lines of Lily Savage actually, but no matter, Although I do not agree with the concept of of the odious Mr Straw at least everyone knows the name of his constituency. It is well known all over the place, from here to Islamabad, especially Islamabad.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

I was thinking of someone more along the lines of Lily Savage actually, but no matter, Although I do not agree with the concept of of the odious Mr Straw at least everyone knows the name of his constituency. It is well known all over the place, from here to Islamabad, especially Islamabad.

Thats not through the forgtable Mr Straw Bob, its because of Blackburn Rovers

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

I was thinking of someone more along the lines of Lily Savage actually, but no matter, Although I do not agree with the concept of of the odious Mr Straw at least everyone knows the name of his constituency. It is well known all over the place, from here to Islamabad, especially Islamabad.

Would I want Jack Straw representing me, just because he's held high office? The man who three times on the Nick Griffin Question Time, refused to give an answer, when asked if his party's policies had any affect on the increased membership of the B.N.P.

No.

Front bench, back bench, I don't care, just as they're working hard for the people who elected them to office.

I don't vote for someone to publicise the area. Sometimes to the detriment of a constituency, in the case of Jack Straw.

If you desire greater and better publicity, engage a public relations expert. That's not the prime job of a M.P.

[Acrylic-bob]

Oh come on rindy, what else are they any use for, except entertainment and a bit of self-righteous tut-tutting when they overstep the mark? Lets face it Blair and Brown have sold our democracy to their masters in Brussels. Anything we do from now on is merely play acting and window dressing. And if you imagine that Cameron will rock the boat in that direction you are fooling yourself. So, the only question you have to ask is do I want to be represented by some overweight old trout or do I choose someone with a bit of fizz?