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20-05-2010, 09:17
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
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Right.
So by 'work', you mean every election promise the Conservatives made, such as dismantling the Human Rights Act and the free vote on the hunting ban, will be blocked by losing party, the Lib Dems, because they don't like it.
Super.
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I would think the economy is a priority never mind whether men in red coats can chase foxy woxy on horseback
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20-05-2010, 09:52
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
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I would think the economy is a priority never mind whether men in red coats can chase foxy woxy on horseback
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You are right jaysay to think the economy is a priority but do you seriously think this Lib-Con lot will pull together and agree on a solution?
Cameron pulled the Con MEPs out of a long-standing alliance in the European Parliament with the mainstream centre-right parties.They were not of his ilk.
Instead he allied his MEPs with dubious centre-right MEPs from Poland,Czech Republic,Latvia,Finland,Hungary,Belgium and Holland.They fitted in better with his European policies and "principles".
Somehow in the UK Parliament he can go into coalition with the Lib-Dems who are centre-left with European policies and "principles" light years away from his.
More "principles" flushed down the Con-Lib loo.
You can't really think this concoction we have as a goverment will ever have the staying-power to get to the roots of any major problems.
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20-05-2010, 10:17
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
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I would think the economy is a priority never mind whether men in red coats can chase foxy woxy on horseback
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'Those who have saved up for their retirement are to be clobbered by a big increase in the Capital Gains Tax on non business assets. This was one of the Lib Dem demands that the Conservatives agreed to in order to get a deal.'
'It is bad enough that the Inheritance Tax cut has been shelved. But this proposal would actually make matters worse for those wanting to pass something on to their children.
As the Conservative’s own tax policy advisor Lord Forsyth says, if we want the economy to grow: ‘You don’t do that by punishing people who save and invest and want to pass assets on to their children.’
Trampling on the fragile economic recovery with tax hikes on the wealth creators does not make economic sense. Nor is this politically justifiable. There is no mandate for it.'
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20-05-2010, 10:25
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
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'Those who have saved up for their retirement are to be clobbered by a big increase in the Capital Gains Tax on non business assets. This was one of the Lib Dem demands that the Conservatives agreed to in order to get a deal.'
'It is bad enough that the Inheritance Tax cut has been shelved. But this proposal would actually make matters worse for those wanting to pass something on to their children. As the Conservative’s own tax policy advisor Lord Forsyth says, if we want the economy to grow: ‘You don’t do that by punishing people who save and invest and want to pass assets on to their children.’
Trampling on the fragile economic recovery with tax hikes on the wealth creators does not make economic sense. Nor is this politically justifiable. There is no mandate for it.'
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Now what do you say when I put links on here from the Mail
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20-05-2010, 10:31
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
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Now what do you say when I put links on here from the Mail
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It's relevant to what's being discussed in this thread.
Just as this is...
'Capital gains tax (CGT) will rise and a cut in inheritance tax (IT) will be put on the back-burner as part of the Government’s overhaul of the taxation system.'
'An increase in the IT threshold was a key Tory manifesto proposal but the Conservatives have since made a u-turn as part of its coalition agreement with the Liberal Democrats.'
Coalition confirms CGT hike for non-business assets - IFAonline
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20-05-2010, 10:34
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
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You are right jaysay to think the economy is a priority but do you seriously think this Lib-Con lot will pull together and agree on a solution?
Cameron pulled the Con MEPs out of a long-standing alliance in the European Parliament with the mainstream centre-right parties.They were not of his ilk.
Instead he allied his MEPs with dubious centre-right MEPs from Poland,Czech Republic,Latvia,Finland,Hungary,Belgium and Holland.They fitted in better with his European policies and "principles".
Somehow in the UK Parliament he can go into coalition with the Lib-Dems who are centre-left with European policies and "principles" light years away from his.
More "principles" flushed down the Con-Lib loo.
You can't really think this concoction we have as a goverment will ever have the staying-power to get to the roots of any major problems.
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It makes not a jot of difference what this government does in some peoples eyes, the fact is we are in one hell of a mess, which was portrayed by the note left at the treasury by Labour ministers saying, there's no money left we've spent it all, which would have been funny if it was not so tragic, and what a thing to joke about, mind you we shouldn't expect any less from political morons. It will take 20 to 30 years to put this country right, not three days
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20-05-2010, 10:40
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
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It makes not a jot of difference what this government does in some peoples eyes, the fact is we are in one hell of a mess, which was portrayed by the note left at the treasury by Labour ministers saying, there's no money left we've spent it all, which would have been funny if it was not so tragic, and what a thing to joke about, mind you we shouldn't expect any less from political morons. It will take 20 to 30 years to put this country right, not three days
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The only thing John Major left, when he departed number ten in 1997, was a pair of Edwina's knickers.
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20-05-2010, 13:08
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
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It makes not a jot of difference what this government does in some peoples eyes, the fact is we are in one hell of a mess, which was portrayed by the note left at the treasury by Labour ministers saying, there's no money left we've spent it all, which would have been funny if it was not so tragic, and what a thing to joke about, mind you we shouldn't expect any less from political morons. It will take 20 to 30 years to put this country right, not three days
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and can ya put yer hand on yer heart n say - This coilition will put it right? nowt at all to do wi whos in power, but yer a better man than i Gunga Din, if ya think they will. we all hope they can, believing it is summat else.
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20-05-2010, 14:43
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
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and can ya put yer hand on yer heart n say - This coilition will put it right? nowt at all to do wi who's in power, but yer a better man than i Gunga Din, if ya think they will. we all hope they can, believing it is summat else.
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Well let just hope and pray that they can cashy, because we're already up the creek without a paddle and I for one don't fancy a pedlow
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20-05-2010, 16:28
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
Use of HIPs (home information packs) are suspended from next week and will be abolished as soon as the law can be passed.
Now that is good news
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20-05-2010, 20:57
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
If ,Jaysay,it will take 20 to 30 years to put this country right,are you suggesting that Cameron and Clegg's next non-mandated diktat should be to have a fixed term of 20 to 30 years?
Or are you hinting that this Con-Lib love affair will end in tears after a few months and the next Labour Government will take decades to clear up the mess left by this weird experiment we are suffering now?
Any guesses as to which manifesto promises will be ditched tomorrow?
Discarding policies and principles just so that they can have power cannot be in the interests of the country.It is a recipe for disaster.
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21-05-2010, 09:20
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
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Originally Posted by JCB
If ,Jaysay,it will take 20 to 30 years to put this country right,are you suggesting that Cameron and Clegg's next non-mandated diktat should be to have a fixed term of 20 to 30 years?
Or are you hinting that this Con-Lib love affair will end in tears after a few months and the next Labour Government will take decades to clear up the mess left by this weird experiment we are suffering now?
Any guesses as to which manifesto promises will be ditched tomorrow?
Discarding policies and principles just so that they can have power cannot be in the interests of the country.It is a recipe for disaster.
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So You think everything in the garden was rosy prior to May 6th Mr Broadley, and the good ship Labour had steered a steady course, well over £1 Trillion in debt tells a different story to those not blind enough to see
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Last edited by Neil; 21-05-2010 at 12:39.
Reason: fixed quote to make it easier to read
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21-05-2010, 09:42
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
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Originally Posted by jaysay
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Originally Posted by JCB
If ,Jaysay,it will take 20 to 30 years to put this country right,are you suggesting that Cameron and Clegg's next non-mandated diktat should be to have a fixed term of 20 to 30 years?
Or are you hinting that this Con-Lib love affair will end in tears after a few months and the next Labour Government will take decades to clear up the mess left by this weird experiment we are suffering now?
Any guesses as to which manifesto promises will be ditched tomorrow?
Discarding policies and principles just so that they can have power cannot be in the interests of the country.It is a recipe for disaster.
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So You think everything in the garden was rosy prior to May 6th Mr Broadley, and the good ship Labour had steered a steady course, well over £1 Trillion in debt tells a different story to those not blind enough to see
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You not going to introduce us properly, to your counterweight?
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Last edited by Neil; 21-05-2010 at 12:39.
Reason: fixed quote to make it easier to read
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21-05-2010, 09:49
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
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You not going to introduce us properly, to your counterweight?
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Think that's up to him, maybe he'll starting another dog and pony show with Robert Owen
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Last edited by Neil; 21-05-2010 at 12:40.
Reason: fixed quote again, you lot need lessons :)
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21-05-2010, 09:59
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Re: Conservatives and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government
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Think that's up to him, maybe he'll starting another dog and pony show with Robert Owen
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Be company for your mates, hyndburn, Malcolm Pritchard, and TheLeadersOfficeHBC, Peter Britcliffe, who post on here in the third person.
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