Conspiracy Theory

jaysay · 01-07-2009, 10:10

Any one see the program on BBC 2 last night about the Conspiracy theories surrounding the 7/7 bombings. The first half of the program set out some of these theories which have been flying about for years on web sites, the second half set about blowing them out of the water. The two main ones were, this guy said that the bombers were never anywhere near Luton Station on the day and that the CCTV stills were doctored, it then went on to say that this same guy wrote on his web site the the Holocaust never happened and when they showed him the actual CCTV film he went rather quiet. The second one which was rather sinister, in as much as this guy made DVD called "The 7/7 Ripple Effect" which more or less said that the government in collusion with MI5 had staged the whole affair to blame Muslims and strengthen there resolve on fighting terrorism
The guy had a middle eastern name and he sent copies of this DVD to mosques all access the country. They tracked him down to Southern Ireland, what a weirdo, seems he was the self proclaimed Messiah according to his website, he has since been arrested for perverting the course of justice. if you missed it its worth a look if it comes on BBC iplayer

***Mr D*** · 01-07-2009, 10:49

I didnt watch this program as I knew what it would be like, I mean come on its The BBC.

From what I can gather it was more of a program trying to discredit 7/7 conspiracy theories, than a look into the bombings themselves.

jaysay · 01-07-2009, 11:00

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

I didnt watch this program as I knew what it would be like, I mean come on its The BBC.

From what I can gather it was more of a program trying to discredit 7/7 conspiracy theories, than a look into the bombings themselves.

It certainly was and it did a very good job too, just showed what half baked idiots there are out there

***Mr D*** · 01-07-2009, 11:42

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It certainly was and it did a very good job too, just showed what half baked idiots there are out there

As in those that believed it.

(The BBC story that is).

kestrelx · 01-07-2009, 13:49

Double bluff!

Thanks to the BBC because I'd never even heard of this You Tube video "77 the ripple effect." until this program pointed it out.

But they could put anything on the news and people would believe it.

MargaretR · 01-07-2009, 14:22

At 3 minutes into the BBC programme -
"they stopped for petrol and one quibbled with the cashier over his change"
...hardly the thing to do if you are on your way to commit suicide
....neither would you throw aside your driving licence as you are about to die.
(discovered TWO DAYS later)

Only a brief mention (in a BBC newscast) was made of a power surge which ocurred as the bombs went off.

"Film made by a man with an arabic sounding name"
Paul Muad'Dib, is a fictional character in the Dune universe created by Frank Herbert;
For a person who is exposing a treachourous government, a pseudonym is an essential.

There was no mention whatsoever of the 24yr old woman who was in the medical building next to the bus bomb,
who said she heard TWO explosions.
This young woman died unexpectedly 2 weeks later.

This BBC documentary had the purpose of discrediting the credibility of the theorists.
They may well be eccentric and have strange opinions on other matters,
but this does not mean that the basis of their claims is untrue.
The BBC has been selective in what aspects of the 7/7 film it chooses to discredit,
and has neglected to mention many other points raised in the 7/7 film.

It is sad that persons have recieved hate mail because they have been named.
That offensive would be better directed towards the alleged planners of the event - the government.
The government who have had to modify the original official explanation in the light of points made in the 7/7 film.

I choose to believe that we have not heard the full truth from either side, and maybe never will.
I examine motives - the government had good reason to benefit from it - an excuse for Irag war.
and history tells us that many have died to give government policy credibility.
eg - Pearl Harbour was allowed to happen - the japanese spy was being watched as he relayed ship movements.
eg - british soldiers were treated as guinea pigs at Christmas Island.

All in all we're just another brick in the wall - we all are 'expendable', and many of us are 'useless eaters'

***Mr D*** · 01-07-2009, 15:12

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Double bluff!

Thanks to the BBC because I'd never even heard of this You Tube video "77 the ripple effect." until this program pointed it out.

But they could put anything on the news and people would believe it.

So did you watch the full video?

Makes interesting viewing and a MUST watch if you are going to comment against it.

Here is the full version.
Conscious Media Network - Featured Video

wadey · 01-07-2009, 15:19

I watched it and the usual nutters were coming up with their conspiracy theories which are an insult to the victims

***Mr D*** · 01-07-2009, 15:27

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I watched it and the usual nutters were coming up with their conspiracy theories which are an insult to the victims

NO INDEPENDENT PUBLIC ENQUIREY is an insult to the victims.

Also should it be an arrestable offence to post a DVD?

Well it is under EU law.

Boeing Guy · 02-07-2009, 18:00

The great thing about You tube is everyone can tell you the truth, its upto you if you believe them.

MargaretR · 02-07-2009, 18:31

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The great thing about You tube is everyone can tell you the truth, its upto you if you believe them.

The same goes for politicians

and pilots

Boeing Guy · 02-07-2009, 18:48

And you as well Margaret, the problem is I don't have a agenda, I just want a quiet life.

Eric · 02-07-2009, 19:22

I still think that "Conspiracy Theory" is a polite modern buzz phrase for bullshlt ... right up there with aliens and their anal probing .... Anyone read "Chariots of the Gods" recently .... by the way, I ran into Elvis yesterday; he told me where Jimmy Hoffa went.

Royboy39 · 02-07-2009, 19:39

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Originally Posted by Eric

I still think that "Conspiracy Theory" is a polite modern buzz phrase for bullshlt.

Spot on Eric........Those chemicals that are sprayed from the air don't kill midges nor do they have much effect on the thieving rats at Westminster.
I think there may be a conspiracy to get the Brown Giant out of No 10 and a conspiracy to make Britain skint.
The Horse Fly conspiracy to bite all and sundry can be contained. Don't eat Horse nuts laced with treacle.
Life goes on.

jaysay · 03-07-2009, 09:31

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Originally Posted by Eric

I still think that "Conspiracy Theory" is a polite modern buzz phrase for bullshlt ... right up there with aliens and their anal probing .... Anyone read "Chariots of the Gods" recently .... by the way, I ran into Elvis yesterday; he told me where Jimmy Hoffa went.

Did Elvis mention anything about how they were going to smuggle Michael out