Corona Virus

[Margaret Pilkington]

I am glad someone found it enlightening. Thank you for your comment Dorothy

It is food for thought….though it might give some a bit of indigestion

I suppose how interesting you find the article depends on your viewpoint.
This article is from a respected source, is scientific and cites other well respected journals and authors.

You can lead a horse….etc.

[monkey hanger]

Originally Posted by dotti34

Margaret, that really is very interesting, I read it all and it is definitely worth a read. Someone who actually knows what they are talking about, makes a change.

think both sides of the argument know what they are talking about. its just you have to dig deep or rely on someone else doing it to get another take on the subject. thats been the total problem from day 1.

[monkey hanger]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I am glad someone found it enlightening. Thank you for your comment Dorothy

It is food for thought….though it might give some a bit of indigestion

I suppose how interesting you find the article depends on your viewpoint.
This article is from a respected source, is scientific and cites other well respected journals and authors.

You can lead a horse….etc.

you just have to go to the corner shop, buy any cheap over the counter madicine, open it up to find a few pages of inforrmation about the product. being one that has taken up my human right to refuse the vaccination i wonder if a similar thing has to be read before those being vaccinated have to get it done. there never has and never will be any medical thing taken without some risks. at the outset you got the impression these jabs were totally risk free.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

You can lead a horse….etc.

Margaret, I am not a horse, I do not want to be led anywhere, I will decide what I find is interesting no-one else.

I didn't find it useful because after over 18 months of the so called pandemic I have become report blind, it has come to pass that we can't give credence to either side of the argument anymore.

It doesn't matter who wrote the article perhaps it would have at the beginning but not anymore it's just one of many to be tossed aside as more bull no matter from which angle the author writes.

I, like many middle of the road losing my sanity type people, no longer care who has a jab, who doesn't have a jab, whether the jab is red,white and blue or green covered in pink spots.

Take the jab or don't, your choice, I won't think any less of you, but don't expect me to find reports worthy of belief anymore.

[monkey hanger]

Originally Posted by Less

I, like many middle of the road losing my sanity type people, no longer care who has a jab, who doesn't have a jab, whether the jab is red,white and blue or green covered in pink spots.

Take the jab or don't, your choice, I won't think any less of you, but don't expect me to find reports worthy of belief anymore.

think many are taking the easy way out in just having the jab just to shut others up. the ones that are totally vaccinated waiting for their 4th seem more loud on the subject than the refuses do. the words of granny killers, selfish are just two of the many thrown at us. we both have strong backs so will continue our stances. only read these reports myself for another take on the propaganda we get shoved down our throats on a daily concending manner. like everyone else i,ll be glad when its all over and can then concentrate on the lefty woke climate changers.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Less...did I say I was referring to you?
As to being report blind..well yes..I get that too. Maybe this is because much of the stuff we are being fed does not add up.

But this Information has been available for a good while(though a lot of it has been suppressed..or not discussed...sort of cancelled)..I have posted links to such stuff earlier in this thread...articles that were of scholarly interest.

The most 'interesting' angle is Enhanced Antibody Response...I you did wish to learn about this there are plenty of articles out there and I know that you could find them if you had a mind to...oh but wait...not suitable as you are report blind.

It is our responsibility to look after our own heath in whatever way we feel is right for us.

That means finding out as much as we possibly can about the issues which might affect us in the future,,,if we do not do this how can we accept that we have done something about which we are fully informed?
Like you I neither know nor care who has had what jab..or how many jabs they have had.

While this information is irrelevant to you (you have already made your choice...and I think that probably goes for the majority of posters on here too) the information might be of interest to others who might just want to know a bit more about what they have--or are going to sign up to.

No you are definitely not a horse.

[shillelagh]

i got my booster jab last week ...

my nephew and his baby son 8months old have tested positive for covid earlier on this week ..

sent a text message to my nephew asking how he was and baby . .and said when hes 21 and he asks what did i do on my 1st christmas dad? Well son you had covid .. Whats covid Dad? ....

[Margaret Pilkington]

Jen, I hope they are both ok and recover soon.

[dotti34]

MH I am one of those people who eventually had the jabs, only two jabs so far, but it was not a decisions taken lightly. It did not come easy to me as I have been concerned about it from the start. I did not have this to shut up the general public, their opinion means nothing to me, I did it for my family’s sake as I knew they were worrying about this stubborn old woman when i told them I was against having it. I did roll up my sleeve eventually just to stop them worrying, and now I can forget about it.
If it had not been for them I would not have bothered. I certainly do not go around telling people I have been jabbed, and it definitely hasn’t made me feel protected in any way.

[DaveinGermany]

I've had 2, the 2nd kicks in fully today, it was not something I wanted or had a desire to accept, but the Germans have form for putting folk under duress & that was the reason I had to have the jags. Many firms won't let you onto their yard, delivering or not unless you've been jabbed, so I couldn't fulfill my job obligations which then puts me & my boss in an awkward situation.

Furthermore, there are some places that are slowly becoming reminiscent of 1930's Germany, a very dark era in this countrys history, so that is why the politicoes are hesitant to introduce compulsory jabs, that being said, a new government is now in power & their attitudes differ from the old one & as such the demands are becoming more strident for "Impfung" & "Papiers". those without are being gradually ostracized & not even subtlely at that.

Most of the "Weihnachts Markts", which are a very important cultural aspect of German life have been shut down this year, same as last year, those that managed to stay open did so with stringent rules & conditions, those allowed entry were issued a ""Bandchen" (braclet) to highlight their conformity, those without remained excluded, there was even "Security" at the access gates, not as you'd hope to keep out the "Imri's" of this world & other such undesirables, oh no! Their purpose to control the "Unclean" & non muzzled.


Tis become a funny old World & that's just in my little part of it.

[Less]

I got a 'phone call the other day from a young man saying he represented my doctors surgery.
Unfortunately for him he rang at just the wrong moment.

I hate cold calling and now my doctor is doing it!

It's like this you see, I smoke, yes, I know it isn't good for me but I am addicted and will be for the rest of my life, anyhow I had just left the warm comfort of the pub to go to the smoking area and was cursing the smoking ban once more when my mobile rang.

'Hello, I'm ringing on behalf of your doctors surgery' said this cheerful youth, 'I see from your records you smoke, would you like to give up?' I didn't question the fact that my doctor seems to have broken confidentiality by allowing this lad access to my files, I was wet and cold and wanted to end this call quickly.

My reply was a sharp, 'no'.
He then went on to tell me (what I already know) that smoking increases my chances of cancer and it would be best etc.
I cut him short, 'but I'm not going to die of cancer'.
HE 'how do you know?.
'well', I replied 'I may get cancer, in which case I will no doubt be sent to hospital, there according to statistics I have more chance of catching covid, if I then die within 30 days of a positive test I won't have died of cancer but I'll have died of a covid related disease, so thank you, but, no thank you, I don't want to give up smoking there is no point' .

[monkey hanger]

think you could be in a minority in this respect though. even before covid ever hit us there was so many who seemed permanent residents in doctots surgeries who always from them had health problems. these would have been first in the queue like they are getting up to dance first at any opportunity.

[dotti34]

More COVID news from Australia for anyone who is interested (and for anyone who is not interested as well, sorry about that). 400 people who were tested on 22nd/23rd December in Sydney were told they were negative late on Christmas Day, so they went about their business, enjoying themselves, feeling free to do so. Unfortunately they had been given the wrong information and were in fact positive. They got this correct information during the afternoon of Sunday……imagine how many people they had been in contact with while thinking they were negative,….and then those people had contacts and then those people, and so on. The mistake has been blamed on human error…irrespective of how it happened, it happened, and it is definitely not a confidence booster……

In different States here many of the original restrictions are reappearing because of more and more cases, although not the lockdowns, well not as yet but who knows…..I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, in my opinion those in charge do not know what to do or how to do it. Restrictions and rules are changed often and we are continually chasing the tail of the virus instead of getting ahead of it. It seems as bad, if not worse, than it was in the beginning. Amongst those catching the virus there seems to be a mixture of the jabbed as well as the unjabbed, and although we ae told that a jabbed person with the virus would not be as ill as an unjabbed one that is not always the case.

Here in South Australia, where a couple of weeks ago we were almost without restrictions, we are now back to only 10 people at a gathering in a house, restrictions on hospitality again, and so on. No end in sight.

[Exile on Spencer St]

Interesting statistics released from official sources that will, I suspect, never be reported on by the main stream manipulators…

https://dailysceptic.org/2021/12/27/...lming-the-nhs/

[cashman]

very interesting stats they are imho.