Corona Virus

[Margaret Pilkington]

I am in the age group considered 'vulnerable'.
This term used for all those in a certain age group is offensive, discriminatory and does not take into consideration the improved health of this group.
I am also against vaccination....if you are vaccinated and I am not, I am no risk to you because you have armed yourself with an improved immunity by being vaccinated.

If a vaccine does become available....I won't be having it.

My problem with vaccinations is both medical and ideological.
I do not trust big pharma to protect me....especially when the likes of Bill gates cosies up to big pharma by promoting vaccination in third world countries.
He would spend money ensuring all children are vaccinated against bacteria in dirty water, because this puts money into the pockets of big pharma.
A simpler solution that would benefit everyone in third world counties would be to provide wells and clean water...probably cheaper too....but does not benefit big pharma.
Bill Gates is in favour of a reduction in population.....go figure.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St

Interesting article from a ‘disinterested’ scientist...

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/0...costing-lives/

IT does not sound disinterested to me.

[Exile on Spencer St]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

IT does not sound disinterested to me.

‘Dis-‘ not ‘un-‘.
I meant disinterested in that he doesn’t seem to be actively advising any government or working for a particular group with an agenda.

[monkey hanger]

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;
I am also against vaccination....if you are vaccinated and I am not, I am no risk to you because you have armed yourself with an improved immunity by being vaccinated.

If a vaccine does become available....I won't be having it.

join the club margaret. the thought of being vaccinated by this rushed through vaccine makes me worry more than the actual virus itself. keep hearing stuff like it takes 6 or 7 years of research and making of vaccines then this one will be out in months and not years. mind you they might offer anyone who does get vaccinated a badge to wear to show you are safe.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I'm not sure that you would be safe...there is little proof that having had the virus confers immunity....and there is evidence to show those who have recovered still test positive.
(Though on consideration that might be the shonky Chinese testing kits that are to blame).

[Less]

Proof that vaccines are of no use must obviously come from the irradication of small pox, or was it because of witch doctors dancing and shaking their sticks at those inflicted?

[Margaret Pilkington]

Less...Read ben Goldacres 'Bad Pharma' see what the big pharma compamnies get up to in the name of making billions of dollars.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Less...Read ben Goldacres 'Bad Pharma' see what the big pharma compamnies get up to in the name of making billions of dollars.

If you don't mind I'd rather not, it's not that I'm happier being ignorant and unlightened, it's just that somehow I get the feeling that I wouldn't be any happier if I was ignorant but felt enlightened by a few propaganda 'facts'.

[Margaret Pilkington]

You wouldn't be happier...in fact is probably for the best that you don't read it.
Except they aren't propaganda facts...they are what goes on in research....and the dirty dealings that go on.

I was daft to suggest such a thing.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

You wouldn't be happier...in fact is probably for the best that you don't read it.
Except they aren't propaganda facts...they are what goes on in research....and the dirty dealings that go on.

I was daft to suggest such a thing.

I only have your word that his word isn't propaganda, under normal circumstances I would take your word at face value, somehow today just at this moment, with all that's going on, nope.

As for you being daft, if that is your opinion you are of course entitled to it.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Well, actually is based on a bit more than that.
I knew a researcher at the Astra Zeneca research facility in Cheshire.
He was a very well read guy, paid lots of money for his work but gave it up because it went against his core vales(the skulduggery, the misrepresentation of data etc)he gave up the work and retrained as a chiropodist.
Didn't make as much money, fewer perks, but was a happier man.

Less, take nothing at face value other than money.

[Less]

Oh dear, hearsay, I knew a guy, he said, we did, all such things come from bulls... erm excuse me, fantasy.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Have it your way Less.
It is far more comfortable for you that way.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Have it your way Less.
It is far more comfortable for you that way.

Obviously it is more comfortable for us all from our own viewpoints, but I'm not trying to push conspiracy down your throat so please leave mine clear.
By the way wasn't polio another vaccine success?
Just thought I'd ask as you ignored small pox.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Yes they both were and I thought that it was a rhetorical question seeing as you obviously knew what the answer would be.

Less I respect your viewpoint and your opinion, and I am free to hold a different one based on my experience of life.
No way am I trying to shove anything down your throat, (as if I would)you are far too astute to allow any such thing to happen.