Corona Virus

[cashman]

thing is what i dont understand with masks, why are the N.H.S. advocating wearing them also showing videos on how to make your own yet you say they are useless margaret?

[Less]

Originally Posted by cashman

thing is what i dont understand with masks, why are the N.H.S. advocating wearing them also showing videos on how to make your own yet you say they are useless margaret?

Imagine a football is a germ, now imagine the football net is a mask, kick the ball into the net and the mesh stops it because the football is bigger than the mesh.
Now, imagine a virus which compared to a football is the size of a pea, throw that into the goal the mesh is too wide apart to stop the pea so a virus would go straight through a mask.

[cashman]

aye less but that dont answer my question about the N.H.S. advocating it.

[Less]

Originally Posted by cashman

aye less but that dont answer my question about the N.H.S. advocating it.

Some mysteries in life I'm just not clever enough to explain.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cashman

thing is what i dont understand with masks, why are the N.H.S. advocating wearing them also showing videos on how to make your own yet you say they are useless margaret?

Cashy, it is not ME saying they are useless.


The scientists (and the science has not changed)are saying they are useless, the mask manufacturers are saying they wil NOT protect you against viruses.
I can provide you with detail of at least 42 peer reviewed scientific studies going back as far as 1975 that will tell you this...AND will also tell you the risks you run by wearing these masks non stop(as they are expecting children to do when they resume school in September)


Wearing a mask is a sign that you are compliant with what government are asking you to do(Brain rinsed).....but it does not show whether you are treating the masks with the care that is needed to ensure you do not contaminate other things in your life....and it will be bacterial or fungal contamination you spread from the mask as viruses are too small to be captured by these maske.


I will say again....ANYTHING smaller that 300 nano-microns will not be captured by any mask.
The covid virus is 190 nano-microns so it gets through very easily...and once a mask is moist then it makes transmission even easier.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Less

Imagine a football is a germ, now imagine the football net is a mask, kick the ball into the net and the mesh stops it because the football is bigger than the mesh.
Now, imagine a virus which compared to a football is the size of a pea, throw that into the goal the mesh is too wide apart to stop the pea so a virus would go straight through a mask.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you Less. Go to the top of the class...and you can be pencil monitor and milk monitor for the forseeable future. I wish I had thought of that!
Brilliant analogy. And being football themed that might make sense to those who have found my explanations difficult.


It is time that people started to question why we are being manipulated as we are.
The answers are out there.
They are scary and sound too 'science fiction'...but that means there is every chance they are accurate.
It scares me anyway.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Cashy, it is not ME saying they are useless.


The scientists (and the science has not changed)are saying they are useless, the mask manufacturers are saying they wil NOT protect you agains viruses.
I can provide you with detail of at least 42 peer reviewed scientific studies going back as far as 1975 that will tell you this...AND will also tell you the risks you run by wearing these masks non stop(as they are expecting children to do when they resume school in September)


Wearing a mask is a sign that you are compliant with what government are asking you to do(Brain rinsed).....but it does not show whether you are treating the masks with the care that is needed to ensure you do not contaminate other things in your life....and it will be bacterial or fungal contamination you spread from the mask as viruses are too small to be captured by these maske.


I will say again....ANYTHING smaller that 300 nano-microns will not be captured by any mask.
The covid virus is 190 nano-microns so it gets through very easily...and once a mask is moist then it makes transmission even easier.

not saying its you am asking why the N.H.S. are advocating? personally i take more notice of them than any scientist.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cashman

aye less but that dont answer my question about the N.H.S. advocating it.

Because the NHS is a politicised organisation and it does as the government meddlers tell it to do. I know this for a fact...I have been in enough meetings where government directives are being discussed, but are implemented regardless.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cashman

not saying its you am asking why the N.H.S. are advocating? personally i take more notice of them than any scientist.

so don't you believe the underpinnings of health care are based on scientific research Cashy?


This is not an NHS edict...it is a government edict and the NHs complies with the edict

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

so don't you believe the underpinnings of health care are based on scientific research Cashy?


This is not an NHS edict...it is a government edict and the NHs complies with the edict

yes but i fail to see why the N.H.S. are saying that if science says different. also i fail to see why they agree with government when many times we have all seen them strongly disagree.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Cashy, you are too trusting. You trust what the government is telling you....these politicians whose stock in trade is lies.

The NHS is an organisation that is manipulated by politics. They do as they are told.
How often has it been used to score political points?
Where does it get its funding from?
Government!
So if the government says jump, the NHS not only jumps but it asks how high and how long it needs to stay up.
It was ever thus....nothing has changed.

Cashy throughout this thread I have taken time to find links to the science...so that you may arm yourself against the big con that is going on.
It is not for me...but to help.others to inform themselves, to protect themselves.
But if you want to believe what the government tell you, believe that they have your interests at heart...wear your mask, then, of course that is your choice.....just don't believe it will offer you any protection against the virus.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

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But if you want to believe what the government tell you....and wear your mask, then, of course that is your choice.....just don't believe it will offer you any protection against the virus.

It won't offer an protection from the people that insisted on making masks compulsory either, except, perhaps you won't get fined for not wearing one.

[Margaret Pilkington]

No-one is being challenged if they are not wearing a mask.
How many police do you see in Accrington town centre?(remember the police station is on Broadway)
Asda are not challenging those not wearing masks and not only that they are putting announcements on the tannoy to say that some people not wearing masks are exempt.

You can go to the pub, eat out, no mask required, you can go to the gym exerting yourself, breathing hard, but not wear a mask....but a trip to the shops and you have to wear a mask.
This is neither sense nor logic.
Cashy, I cannot make you understand...I can only give you reason and evidence.

[Exile on Spencer St]

It’s not what ‘THE NHS‘ is saying, it’s who in the NHS is saying it.
These announcements, as Margaret alluded to, are usually put out from HQ by paper-pushers, statisticians, and even more grandly titled administrators. Their role is to do as their paymasters (the Govt) tell them if, for no other reason, than their admin jobs depend on it.
Here’s a letter that, it’s claimed, comes from a front line consultant.

https://georivista.com/2020/07/16/ch...obal-research/

This is not the only such comment I’ve come across from real medics, as opposed to the politicised bureaucracy of the NHS. Here’s another.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...t-the-lockdown

And, if anyone is still in doubt, here’s what it says on the Boots web site:

[Margaret Pilkington]

While I have been retired from the NHS for a long time now, I can confirm that I have been in meetings allegedly to discuss government guidelines.....our discussions were irrelevant.
Just a paper exercise to make it look like there had been consultation with medical staff.

Exile, you are right....who pays the piper calls the tune....so the government hand down the rules....the administrators hand them down to the minions and the minions tick the boxes.
That is how it works.
So your comment is spot on.

We can post all the links, the articles, the science, but it does not seem to make much of an impact.
But, I find it interesting so keep posting these nuggets...I value them.