Corona Virus

[cashman]

Originally Posted by monkey hanger

more like restrictions in what the can and cannot do. if they refuse and in small numbers their choice will be to resign or join the majority. that may be our chance in a year or so.

That is obvious to many people i think.

[Margaret Pilkington]

This is a picture of a letter received by someone living in Wales.
This person has ongoing serious health issues.
In Saturday mornings post they received two letters....one reminding them that the should have the flu jab(that makes money for the practice) and this one telling them that if their health took a major downturn they would not be admitted to hospital, an ambulance would not be called and no measures such as CPR would be performed on them...but later in the letter in bold....it tells them that they are not being abandoned.

So tell me....is this the NHS at its best?
Oh and before someone tells me that GP’s are not employed by the NHS, but contracted to the NHS...I know....but should it make a difference?

[monkey hanger]

Originally Posted by cashman

That is obvious to many people i think.

but is it. vaccinations will never be compulsory but there could be restrictions put on the whole population who refuses them. doubt many think this will happen but how many thought we,d be restricted in our lives since march. keep hoping something will crop up where the vast majority do rebel in the enough is enough thoughts. not going to be a breath holding exercise though.

[monkey hanger]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

This is a picture of a letter received by someone living in Wales.
This person has ongoing serious health issues.
In Saturday mornings post they received two letters....one reminding them that the should have the flu jab(that makes money for the practice) and this one telling them that if their health took a major downturn they would not be admitted to hospital, an ambulance would not be called and no measures such as CPR would be performed on them...but later in the letter in bold....it tells them that they are not being abandoned.

So tell me....is this the NHS at its best?
Oh and before someone tells me that GP’s are not employed by the NHS, but contracted to the NHS...I know....but should it make a difference?

be interesting how many similar letters went out last week. is it the health service to blame or the welsh assembly putting pressure on em to toe their line.

[Exile on Spencer St]

This is beyond belief....

[Margaret Pilkington]

It is time they (the government, the scientists) started to come clean about the number of people who are ill....rather than the number of people who have had positive PCR tests.
A positive test means nothing in the absence of symptoms.
Currently it is implied that positive tests are ‘cases’.....many of these tests will be repeat tests on the same person(schools require a negative result before a child can return to school).
600 thousand children have been sent home from school since the new term started....only 10 thousand tested positive....and we are not told just how many of these children actually exhibited symptoms.

The other thing that I wonder is whether the amplification of these tests has been increased....or what the amplification of each test is.
The reason I would like to know is that the more a test is amplified the more likely it is to be positive.
This test is not specific to Covid....it will pick up and protein from previous virus infections....not necessarily Covid.

[monkey hanger]

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1246238]It is time they (the government, the scientists) started to come clean about the number of people who are ill....

that what really bugs me. they say X number of positive cases in a certain area. that certainly is not the case to order a wreath for all of em. however there must be plenty of people out there hearing these things that go in a bigger panic mode because of this news. in times of crisis it should be the governments job to reassure the population not putting em in fear and having to find the correct information from somewhere else.

[Margaret Pilkington]

If there were the cases that they are bandying around then there would be bodies piled up in the streets.
If you get this virus, then unless you are already ill with another condition...or perhaps even have an undiagnosed condition(it is said that there are many undiagnosed type two diabetics in the population) then your chances of recovery are 99%.
So why are we disabling education, businesses livelihoods for a 1% risk?

Well, I know what I think...but then you do too as I have been saying it since dot of this situation...but then why would anyone listen to a conspiracy theorist?

[monkey hanger]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

So why are we disabling education, businesses livelihoods for a 1% risk?

Well, I know what I think...but then you do too as I have been saying it since dot of this situation...but then why would anyone listen to a conspiracy theorist?

again its not a conspiracy theory. why do the thinking population have to search youtube, read your and exiles stuff to get an alternative view to help you understand the total situation we are in. what you and exile find is not compulsory to believe but neither is the BBC. unfortunetly the majority seem to believe them and shows the value of constant propaganda issued to the public.

[Margaret Pilkington]

yes...I think my aim has to be that I offer information for people to consider as an alternative to the stuff we are being bombarded with....and also what seems to be the agenda behind these scare tactics for that is what they are.
People may read the links that i post, the information,( and some of it from sources that havean agenda in keeping us scared) and they can decide whether they waant to beleive MSM or whether they will look into the alternative views.

There is a growing group of medics, scientists and epidemiologists who are openly expressing views other than that the governments in the world are asking the population to believe.
and if they are concerned then it stands to reason(or to my reason) that there is something to be concerned about.

[monkey hanger]

new on the BBC website the government scientific moddlers are predicting deaths between 2 and 4 thousand a day if the government does not intervene again. wasn,t it no more than 1,000 fudged figures anyway at last times maximum. these men are really dangerous.

[Margaret Pilkington]

New full Lockdown next week.
We have had a creeping lockdown for weeks anyway.
Ridiculous and nonsensical rules have meant that people did not trust what they were being asked to do...but were still scared by the information.

They think a lockdown will sort it....it won’t.
It will still be there when we are released from house arrest.

[cashman]

As far as im concerned a full lockdown has no chance of working unless they start to come down hard on the clowns that ignore it. obviously wont win me any fans but i dont give a stuff thats my view Like it or Lump it.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by monkey hanger

vaccinations will never be compulsory

Quite, in 90/91 before going to the Gulf, British troops were offered a jag against Bubonic plague due to the Bio-warfare threat of Saddam. This particular little dose of joy wasn't exactly an off the shelf & authorised cure all, more a sort of lets see what happens, Squaddies being squaddies just said yeah ok do it!


After leaving in late 93 I received my medical docs to hand on to my new Civvy house doctor, nowhere in my papers was the plague jag mentioned, I & I would suggest 99% of the UK forces "Voluntarily" got stabbed without knowing the effectiveness or if complications would arise then or in later life.


When studies showing our lads & lasses along with many allied troops showing varying unidentifiable & non definable, illnesses & effects years after, known as the "Gulf war syndrome", all Govts denied any knowledge as to why this should be.

[DaveinGermany]

Have just read Sean Connery has died, now I wonder what they'll put the cause down to?