Corrie's Bill Roach believes in Reincarnation!

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by mobertol

As a born sceptic, i'm afraid that the whole reincarnation thing is just another selfish way of thinking you can hang on to life.
(As i was writing this, and getting interupted, I see Margaret and Garinda have written again both mentioning spirituality in one way or another. To me spirituality has nothing to do with religion it is a knowing of the self and understanding how the elements that make up our-self can be completed by the others with whom we interact. It is a very personal human thing....as we progress in life we find those around us who compliment who we are and can make us our whole-selves.)

I really don't see how gaining comfort from a belief is selfish. Everyone has their own way of dealing with their mortality........some people do not even recognise their mortality.

Your view on spirituality coincides with much of my own feelings, but I would add in that spirituality recognises that there will be those who don't subscribe to values which you might hold dear...this in no way negates their value in your own life......it may even broaden your own horizons.

We do not need to be able to see America to know it exists.

[Margaret Pilkington]

That will be my last contribution to this thread as I feel I can no longer add anything of any value(maybe what I have already said is crap anyway.)

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

That will be my last contribution to this thread as I feel I can no longer add anything of any value(maybe what I have already said is crap anyway.)

You've never posted that, ever.

Don't worry.

You can post in the new thread, I'm about to start.

Discussing Bill Roache's belief in Conservatism, with a capital 'C'.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by garinda

I"One of the great discoveries I have made while pursuing the quest for enlightenment has been the universal and timeless efficacy of astrology."

Well, he's looking to the stars too, and thinks he's one of them no doubt

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

That will be my last contribution to this thread as I feel I can no longer add anything of any value(maybe what I have already said is crap anyway.)

Unable to keep up with all that pure logic that Mags has filled the thread with eh Margaret?

Not to worry, just take a short break then come back refreshed and reincarnated, we can tolerate the above quote not being true.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by garinda

The only miracle is life itself, and the fact that we are the most advanced form of life on this lump of mass, hurtling through space.

Life's precious.

Enjoy it, whilst it lasts.

I can't agree that we are the most advanced form of life on Earth, or that life is a miracle. I can agree that we are the greatest threat to the survival of the planet as we know it ... maybe we have specific abilities and skills ... however, we lack the ability to apply them for our benefit ... unless one can see flat screen TVs flashing with images of Jerry Springer as benefits.

And "Life's precious" ... let me think about that one while I pay another visit to the Yad Vashem web site

I think I'll stick with Shakespeare and his "Life's but a walking shadow .... ", and Kafka or course.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

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I really don't see how gaining comfort from a belief is selfish. Everyone has their own way of dealing with their mortality........some people do not even recognise their mortality.

Your view on spirituality coincides with much of my own feelings, but I would add in that spirituality recognises that there will be those who don't subscribe to values which you might hold dear...this in no way negates their value in your own life......it may even broaden your own horizons.

We do not need to be able to see America to know it exists.

The "selfish" refers to thinking we have an exclusive right to life - genes are selfish -they just want to replicate themselves. We can't do that completely -perhaps that's why people want to prolong their own "whole" person on way or another... I don't mind people comforting themselves with whatever thought makes them feel good. I still think it's better to enjoy the comfort of our fellow man while we can, in this life.

Won't comment on the second part.......prefer to remain narrow-minded

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Eric

I can't agree that we are the most advanced form of life on Earth, or that life is a miracle. I can agree that we are the greatest threat to the survival of the planet as we know it ... maybe we have specific abilities and skills ... however, we lack the ability to apply them for our benefit ... unless one can see flat screen TVs flashing with images of Jerry Springer as benefits.

And "Life's precious" ... let me think about that one while I pay another visit to the Yad Vashem web site

I think I'll stick with Shakespeare and his "Life's but a walking shadow .... ", and Kafka or course.

Nope.

Still happier with my more simplistic way of thinking.

In my experience, life is precious.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by garinda

Nope.

Still happier with my more simplistic way of thinking.

In my experience, life is precious.

Maybe it's the unseasonable drizzly Accy style weather ... but for now, I think I'll stick with the dark side of the force

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I don't have a religion.
I understand how some people assume that religion and reincarnation belief neccessarily go together.
They don't - so all this religion talk is off thread.

MargaretR,while professing to have no religion the enthusiasm with which you promote your beliefs suggest you are a greater zealot than some on here who have a religious belief.
Religion and reincarnation don't neccesarily go together but they usually do, so we're not off thread( although probably on dangerous ground).

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by Eric

Maybe it's the unseasonable drizzly Accy style weather ... but for now, I think I'll stick with the dark side of the force

Really Eric - you should always look on the bright side of life -as a namesake of yours famously sings in The Life of Brian....

Life is quite absurd, and death's the final word....

[Eric]

Originally Posted by mobertol

Really Eric - you should always look on the bright side of life -as a namesake of yours famously sings in The Life of Brian....

Life is quite absurd, and death's the final word....

Life might be absurd ... but I won't be certain until Godot shows up to tell me for sure. And remember, while you are looking at the bright side, the dark side will creep up on you and boot you in the ass

Eric Idle is cool; but I still think that for a more comprehensive and accurate world view, one should listen to George Carlin. Someone told me that, with my beard trimmed, and my hair in a pony tail, I look a lot like George ... not much of a compliment considering he's been pushing up daisies for three years

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by Eric

Life might be absurd ... but I won't be certain until Godot shows up to tell me for sure. And remember, while you are looking at the bright side, the dark side will creep up on you and boot you in the ass

Eric Idle is cool; but I still think that for a more comprehensive and accurate world view, one should listen to George Carlin. Someone told me that, with my beard trimmed, and my hair in a pony tail, I look a lot like George ... not much of a compliment considering he's been pushing up daisies for three years

You might have quite a long wait Eric!

I am protected from the dark-side by my belief in the force

Just had a fun half-hour watching George on you tube -didn't know him but found this which is on thread....not his best stuff, but OK. you do look like him but are obviously more attractive

[Gordon Booth]

mobertol, Zeitgeist- fascinating although I wonder how much is co-incidences co-inciding?
Worth further investigation.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

mobertol, Zeitgeist- fascinating although I wonder how much is co-incidences co-inciding?
Worth further investigation.

There is a lot of "coincidence" in the numbers, sun worship etc which is very interesting - that said you can often make statistics fit your given theory, but it is thought provoking..

Many of the major religions do have the same stories, creation, adam and eve, Noah's ark ...appearing under different guises. The New testament is heavily edited by man's choice of the gospels included and the translation of those texts. So much for it being written by God through the hand of the disciples Much nuance of meaning has been lost as it changes through time and the significance and interpretation of some of the imagery and symbolism is lost on us...