Corrie's Bill Roach believes in Reincarnation!

[MargaretR]

I am currently reading another
Multidimensional Man: Amazon.co.uk: Jurgen Ziewe: Books

[garinda]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Sentience - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Sentience is the ability to feel, perceive or be conscious, or to have subjective experiences"

A mouse is 'sentient' - so you could reincarnate as one , or maybe were one last time.

I am glad you do not intend to survive death, so I have no chance of meeting you again.

To understand that physical matter is vibrating energy you need read about elementary quantum physics.
I have trawled the web, found plenty of scientific docs, but I have been unable to find any which a mouse could understand.
Since you don't seem to consider the possibility that it could be true, then I assume that you do not want to know.
So I wont waste my time further

Not having a go...honest.

Believe what you will, if it's a comfort, but of course there's absolutely no evidence for what you've posted.

Bit ironic, that you think most of humanity has been brain-washed.

How is what you say you 'believe', any different?

[garinda]

The only miracle is life itself, and the fact that we are the most advanced form of life on this lump of mass, hurtling through space.

Life's precious.

Enjoy it, whilst it lasts.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I have no time for religion.
I came to believe in 'life after death' after reading research into out of body experience.
Robert A Monroe wrote three books about the decades of research he did.
They are free on Scribd.

That's a load of "Hollyhocks".

Having had a similar experience during the (very) difficult birth of my second son - the old rushing down the tunnel towards the light crap and seeing yourself from the outside...it's a mechanism of the brain to cut out pain and happens because of a reduction of Oxygen to the parts of the brain controlling the perception of pain, similar to fainting but without total loss of consciousness in order for the body to continue with the business in hand -in my case producing a healthy but overly large son.

I still believe in Father Xmas but no presents come for me any more...

[MargaretR]

There is no way of proving it, but quantum physicists are getting close.
Many people have had 'unexplainable' psychic experiences.
Whether you choose to explore for a reason for them, depends on curiosity and/or fear of the unknown.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I am currently reading another
Multidimensional Man: Amazon.co.uk: Jurgen Ziewe: Books

Like Gordon said, we're just an amazingly complex combination of cells.

Basically no different from any other life form.

Those cells eventually die.

It's a comfort that we have the ability to think otherwise.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

There is no way of proving it, but quantum physicists are getting close.
Many people have had 'unexplainable' psychic experiences.
Whether you choose to explore for a reason for them, depends on curiosity and/or fear of the unknown.

The human brain is the most amazing thing.

It's capable of great things, some being yet unknown.

When there's no energy to power it, it's ability, and function ceases.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by garinda

The human brain is the most amazing thing.

It's capable of great things, some being yet unknown.

When there's no energy to power it, it's ability, and function ceases.

It is considered to be the last frontier of science -research into it is probably where future miracles will come from. At least i hope so...

[garinda]

Pointless arguing.

People are free to enjoy the comfort their beliefs afford them.

I'm just busily enjoying my life, whilst I can.

Because I know I'm right.

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

To understand that physical matter is vibrating energy you need read about elementary quantum physics.
I have trawled the web, found plenty of scientific docs, but I have been unable to find any which a mouse could understand.

MargaretR, I was(suppose I still am) a very highly qualified engineer so don't start lecturing me about vibrating energy and elementary quantum physics and telling me I need to read about it.My knowledge of quantum physics is almost certainly less elementary than yours is! Yours appears to be based on the kooky theories of some attention seeking morons spouting pseudo science who wish to sell books to gullible people like yourself!
Whether you accept it or not, you are made up of the same elements, molecules, atoms,electrons etc. as a mouse, tree, rock or anything else in the universe. Yes, I know 'I think therefore I am'. That just makes you a more advanced collection of all those things.
As for reading any of the books or material you mention-'Therein lies madness'.

[garinda]

Some mice probably grasp the meaning of life, better than some people.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by garinda

Pointless arguing.

People are free to enjoy the comfort their beliefs afford them.

I'm just busily enjoying my life, whilst I can.

Because I know I'm right.

Hit the nail on the head again. That's what it 's all about -comfort.

Better to have the comfort of ones loved ones during a full life - than a load of mumbo jumbo pie in the sky.

A kind word, contact with another human being, a hug, a message from a friend, good times spent with our family...contact with others is what makes it all worth while. When our part in the game is over, what is left is our memory in the mind and hearts of those who have cared for us and who we have loved.

I ask for no more...

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I have no time for religion.
I came to believe in 'life after death' after reading research into out of body experience.
Robert A Monroe wrote three books about the decades of research he did.
They are free on Scribd.

Out of body experience is totally different to reincarnation, the former meaning that you wake up with memories of seeing yourself from above or outside your skin, now whether that's all in the mind or not, who knows, but reincarnation means leaving this world and returning either as another human being or some form of animal or the like, sadly I've never actually spoken to anybody who's passed this way before, they must keep themselves to themselves

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

The only miracle is life itself, and the fact that we are the most advanced form of life on this lump of mass, hurtling through space.

Life's precious.

Enjoy it, whilst it lasts.

That's very very true Rindi, as you say enjoy it whilst it lasts as you never know when it will be your last day, that's why I don't waste what little time I have left worrying what could happen, which ever way you look at it there's sod all you can do to change a thing anyway so why bother

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Try walking into a brick wall and see if that feels like an illusion of your brain!

We only get one go at life-when its gone it's gone, so make the best of it.
The only way you can live on is through your children and their children.
Why do some people have to think they are different than all other life? Why should sentient beings have souls but non-sentient don't? Look at the gene patterns, we're not that much different than a mouse so what makes us special?
Because we're sentient we have a selfish fear of death so we have to invent a second chance- eat, drink and be merry, there isn't a second chance!

Some incidents effect different people in different ways. I've had experiences and sure others have in which you've been in an accident and you escaped unharmed. Or something happens and you don't feel the pain in the same way. For example a few years ago I went head over the handle bars of my push bike and wasn't hurt. Sometimes these things are to do with attitude or a mental state. Have you seen children when they fall over and don't cry - it's only when their parents run over going are you OK that they start crying. So perhaps we are taught to feel pain? Another example is Budhist monks who can endure levels of pain behind the ken of the normal person.

Recently there was a TV program about a couple of men from South America who could pass electricity through their bodies and not get hurt or burned. So there are exceptions.

Fact is you can't prove we don't carry on after life or the opposite - it's only a matter of personal experience and personal decisions.