Corrie's Bill Roach believes in Reincarnation!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I am preaching tolerance

Oh, if you're preaching your beliefs.

[Margaret Pilkington]

good rousing battle music.
Peace brothers....and sisters

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by garinda

Oh, if you're preaching your beliefs.

Nice tune that G....shame about the words.......so samey

[MargaretR]

I don't have a religion.
I understand how some people assume that religion and reincarnation belief neccessarily go together.
They don't - so all this religion talk is off thread.

[Doug]

I remember being sent to a Catholic School in Accrington while a I waited for a place at Green Howarth. On my first day a nice Gentleman ridiculed me by pointing at me a saying to the whole class that I was a none believer, a dirty little prod, I didn't even know what a (F) prod was. I said should I go and wash my hands and the bastard hit me. I was bullied badly for about four months by teachers and kids all of them Catholics.

After I got to Green Howarth a nice teacher call Mrs. H. beat me across the left hand has often as she could, just because I had a bent to write left handed. I was told it was a sign of evil. She was a good Catholic lady.

Many years later when I got married my new mother in law promised me on my wedding day that she would see me cast out of her daughters life and turn my son away from me; and she did. She was a good Catholic lady too.

I haven't clue why they hated me so much…..I never even went to church, I was born there.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I don't have a religion.
I understand how some people assume that religion and reincarnation belief neccessarily go together.
They don't - so all this religion talk is off thread.

No it isn't off thread, as there are many religions, which like yourself, believe in some sort of reincarnation.

It's perfectly reasonable to mention various other faiths, that share similar beliefs.

Christianity exists because of the belief that Jesus died, and rose again, though in this case, he was to inhabit his old body.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I don't have a religion.
I understand how some people assume that religion and reincarnation belief neccessarily go together.
They don't - so all this religion talk is off thread.

No one's questioning what you happen to believe, as far as I'm aware.

Show a little more tolerance, for those you think have fallen by the (thread's) wayside.

[garinda]

if people want to publicly testify, as to their own beliefs, that's their right.

But in choosing to do so, they are inviting discussion.

I know some people whose own beliefs are their's, and their's alone. Which is why they don't invite others to share them.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Doug

I remember being sent to a Catholic School in Accrington while a I waited for a place at Green Howarth. On my first day a nice Gentleman ridiculed me by pointing at me a saying to the whole class that I was a none believer, a dirty little prod, I didn't even know what a (F) prod was. I said should I go and wash my hands and the bastard hit me. I was bullied badly for about four months by teachers and kids all of them Catholics.

After I got to Green Howarth a nice teacher call Mrs. H. beat me across the left hand has often as she could, just because I had a bent to write left handed. I was told it was a sign of evil. She was a good Catholic lady.

Many years later when I got married my new mother in law promised me on my wedding day that she would see me cast out of her daughters life and turn my son away from me; and she did. She was a good Catholic lady too.

I haven't clue why they hated me so much…..I never even went to church, I was born there.

That all sounds terrible..Mother in law sounds like a right ****.. well done to you Doug for overcoming such a bad time.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

A slight variation on Descartes, 'I think therefore I am' Gordon. I think I think therefore I might be.

Phew thank god for that Bernard's still around he hasn't emigrated

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

When it comes to various fundamentalist faith groups/religions, who seek to impose their own beliefs, over and above what passes for a democratic system, not only can they go and whistle, if they expect any respect from me, I'll actively fight their crusade until I draw my last breath.

(...and return to dust.)

Well as you know I'm RC, but I sure as hell don't believe carte blanche in all its teachings ie birth control and homosexuality, which I think is quite well known on here, and I certainly treat religious begets with the contempt they so richly deserve

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Doug

I love you Mrs. Pilkington. You know I do.

Flatterer Doug

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well as you know I'm RC, but I sure as hell don't believe carte blanche in all its teachings ie birth control and homosexuality, which I think is quite well known on here, and I certainly treat religious begets with the contempt they so richly deserve

I recall genesis is all about begetting
....and catholics are good at it.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I recall genesis is all about begetting
....and catholics are good at it.

Thank You so much for pointing that spelling mistake out Margaret, shows your still alert, must remember the next time you make a mistake to point it out to you, and yes you do make them your not infallible

[Doug]

Just personal life experiences of religion and beliefs Mancie; the Mother in Law event was over 20 years ago, my marriage lasted 3 years, the heart ache of that experience is buried deep but always hurtful; the same can be said of the Mother in Law.

Despite having a Church of England background what hurts is the fact that Catholic blood runs in my veins through ancestors as does the blood of the Jews, but the selfishness and blindness of other peoples religion never considers that.

We all know that the most persecuted religion in history is that of the Jews; mostly by a Jewish sect called Christianity; within Christianity the Catholic Church persecuted and murdered its way though its own people and those of other religions and in turn the English Church persecuted and murdered its way though the Catholics of the British Isles and beyond. Everybody's had a go at the Muslims and yet True Islam is one of the most respectful and embracing of all the peoples of the Book. It is also one of the greatest contributors to Medicine, Science and literacy.

So what's wrong in the world today is no different than a thousand years ago; religion has always been a power base of a few to control a mostly illiterate majority only today we call ourselves enlightened and the rest of the worlds religions has some variation of evil. Only Man is evil towards other men and usually its only a few; today it's within the hand of politics; before that in the hands of Kings; before that Priests and before that tribal leaders and mystics. Power as never been in the hands of the people and it never will.

All we can do is try and respect others and take only those elements of religion or beliefs that work for us and show no offence to those that don't. I am as happy to dance around a tree naked has I am to sit in a Church. People who seek to hurt others will only suffer themselves in time; it's wrote throughout our history