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12-10-2010, 20:52
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
John, Ken the only Labour Councillor that talks sense. I'm hurt and wounded !!!!
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12-10-2010, 21:23
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
there all in it for the same thing.
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13-10-2010, 09:01
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
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John, Ken the only Labour Councillor that talks sense. I'm hurt and wounded !!!!
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Its very rare you come on here now Clare, was talking about on here, as I don't here them anywhere else
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13-10-2010, 09:40
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
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there all in it for the same thing.
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What is that then?
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13-10-2010, 09:43
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
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What is that then?
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Obviously for the good of the community
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13-10-2010, 11:22
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
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What is that then?
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It may not be a popular opinion but I respect the integrity of most politicians , local and national .
I believe that Margaret Thatcher's policies were what she considered best for the country . I believe the same of the late Michael Foot .
Both were far from each other in their politics , but both held views they considered right .
I would have opted for Michael Foot any day , but I still think Maggie did what she thought was right , though I could in no way support her.
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13-10-2010, 12:09
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
I don't understand why this candidate's campaign slogan points to a corrupt council. Can't really see that it will endear any voters towards him. He will have to explain exactly why he thinks they are and could get his knickers in a twist.
Better to promote himself as to the positive improvements he could add to Baxenden by becoming their Councillor.
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13-10-2010, 13:27
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
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I don't understand why this candidate's campaign slogan points to a corrupt council. Can't really see that it will endear any voters towards him. He will have to explain exactly why he thinks they are and could get his knickers in a twist.
Better to promote himself as to the positive improvements he could add to Baxenden by becoming their Councillor.
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Well said, Kate.
Vote for the person and not the party. Slagging off the opposition in Rishton is a surefire way of losing any election and I'm sure it's the same in other wards too.
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13-10-2010, 13:36
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
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there all in it for the same thing.
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Presumably, you're referring to money and power. What a media-driven idea that is.
A junior councillor gets around £280 each month after tax and other contributions and you hardly have any power unless you are with the controlling group. You have countless e-mails and phonecalls every day plus meetings and residents' groups to attend in your spare time each week. If you are lucky enough to be granted the chair of any committee then you get in the region of £1,500 a year extra per position but they tend to be snapped up by, well, a certain person.
County Councillors get extra money but you're basically looking at a full-time job by this stage. Backbench MPs get in the region of £66k per year but spend four days a week away from their family in a house that isn't theirs and the remaining free time they have at home is gobbled up with constituency matters. They're not exactly the most stable of jobs either.
Apart from that, life is one long gravy train.
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13-10-2010, 17:17
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
In Kingston, our municipal election will be held on October 25 ... and thankfully, party politics are not involved. I vote in Williamsville Ward for my councillor, and also, of course, for the position of Mayor. I know that one of the candidates for Mayor is a member of the Liberal Party ... his father represents Kingston and the Islands in the Ontario legislature ... Jim Neill, who will be getting my vote for councillor, is a member of the New Democratic Party (Labour). However, party politics are not the issue ... there are no party blocs on council ... the concerns that voters have are strictly local: infrastructure, policing, property taxes, development of our beautiful waterfront, garbage and recycling etc. Party politics, and the resulting acrimony, is not an issue. And I don't think it should be. Voters will vote for the candidates they think will best represent their interests and who will do the best job for the City of Kingston.
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13-10-2010, 17:45
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
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Originally Posted by katex
I don't understand why this candidate's campaign slogan points to a corrupt council. Can't really see that it will endear any voters towards him. He will have to explain exactly why he thinks they are and could get his knickers in a twist.
Better to promote himself as to the positive improvements he could add to Baxenden by becoming their Councillor.
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He could have stood for Labour Kate, its just that he hates Britcliffe that's all
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13-10-2010, 17:47
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss
Presumably, you're referring to money and power. What a media-driven idea that is.
A junior councillor gets around £280 each month after tax and other contributions and you hardly have any power unless you are with the controlling group. You have countless e-mails and phonecalls every day plus meetings and residents' groups to attend in your spare time each week. If you are lucky enough to be granted the chair of any committee then you get in the region of £1,500 a year extra per position but they tend to be snapped up by, well, a certain person.
County Councillors get extra money but you're basically looking at a full-time job by this stage. Backbench MPs get in the region of £66k per year but spend four days a week away from their family in a house that isn't theirs and the remaining free time they have at home is gobbled up with constituency matters. They're not exactly the most stable of jobs either.
Apart from that, life is one long gravy train.
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Thou hast lots to learn youngun
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13-10-2010, 18:08
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
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Are you saying he has to serve his apprenticeship before, he can be corrupt?
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13-10-2010, 18:17
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
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Are you saying he has to serve his apprenticeship before, he can be corrupt?
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No but it helps
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13-10-2010, 18:19
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Re: Corrupt Council ?
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No but it helps
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To serve your time as a councillor Less, not to become corrupt by doing so
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