Council finances in a shocking state

[gynn]

Originally Posted by g jones

2. They failed to balence last years budget raiding the reserves to the tune of £300,000. A figure Labour now has to find to pay back last year AND find savings for every year.

Regular members of this forum will know I have been warning of this since November. The problem isnt just with last years budget. In February the Council set an "unbalanced" budget which contained 600,000 pounds worth of uncertain income predictions which, as far as I know, have not been fully examined, as the then Chair of Scrutiny Committee wouldn't allow them to be questioned.

It can only be that the previous administration rode rough shod over the professional advice of officers, who have now been left to pick up the pieces with the new administration.

Don't blame the officers.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I think we all know where the blame lies.......and it isn't with the officers.

[Bernard Dawson]

Originally Posted by gynn

Regular members of this forum will know I have been warning of this since November. The problem isnt just with last years budget. In February the Council set an "unbalanced" budget which contained 600,000 pounds worth of uncertain income predictions which, as far as I know, have not been fully examined, as the then Chair of Scrutiny Committee wouldn't allow them to be questioned.

It can only be that the previous administration rode rough shod over the professional advice of officers, who have now been left to pick up the pieces with the new administration.

Don't blame the officers.

I don't think anyone is blaming the officers. Your last paragraph sums up what has happened.

[gynn]

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

I don't think anyone is blaming the officers. Your last paragraph sums up what has happened.

I know they aren't to blame. You know they aren't to blame. Lets hope the External Auditors are as charitable. They always like SOMEONE to blame to justify their astronomical fees, and officers are usually in the firing line!

[cashman]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

A thread claiming to know the true identity of Bee has been deleted, which has convinced me that that poster was correct

also other stuff on another thread about that very subject, as toyah once sang "Its A Mystery" But far be it fer me to cast the first stone.............Just the BIGGEST. pmsl

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by gynn

In February the Council set an "unbalanced" budget which contained 600,000 pounds worth of uncertain income predictions which, as far as I know, have not been fully examined, as the then Chair of Scrutiny Committee wouldn't allow them to be questioned.

The new Chair of Scrutiny is a real swine, I'm fairly sure that there will be a few questions tabled that certain members of the previous administration would rather were not asked.

Or the findings published.

Oops.

[accyman]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

The new Chair of Scrutiny is a real swine, I'm fairly sure that there will be a few questions tabled that certain members of the previous administration would rather were not asked.

Or the findings published.

Oops.

if any illegal doings such as fraud can be proven will charges be pressed.Not suggesting illegal goings on have occurred but if they have been and can be proven it would be nice to see punishment handed out for once.Or to borrow one mans claim are they all made of tefal and nothing sticks to them ?

[steeljack]

Originally Posted by walkinman221

after all you are in america are you not? But you still come on accy web to see whats going on here, are there no issues in the usa which concern you more?

Think the old maxim 'travel broadens the mind " and I've never had a parochial (closed/small) mind . Seems to me lots of Hyndburn locals are primed and ready to comment on US and World affairs /events and no-one complains about that .
One or two points if you want to keep things "local" maybe you should be using the HBC web-site ....oops forgot , it doesn't work , seem to remember lots of money spent but nothing to show , obivously the elected Council at the time were 'conned' into accepting a bum system on advice from Council employed IT experts ( do these folks still have jobs at HBC ?) .
Not sure , and may be wrong here (sure someone will correct me soon enough) but I'm of the understanding that the bloke/chap/guy who started , owns , operates and finances this site is or was an overseas non domiciled Brit, based somewhere in eastern Europe so maybe your anti Hyndburn resident bias is a bit off target .
I'm also supposing your against a non resident Brit owning/saving Accrington Stanley from the knackers yard , maybe all the folks who follow Stanley in the various football threads should be excluded from posting comments on Accy web , or maybe folks who live outside the Borough be banned from posting videos on the music thread , or maybe its your dislike of the occasional weather report from Canada
My suggetion ...... if you are so upset at non Hyndburn residents commenting and posting you should contact one of the moderators and have them 'isolate' our isps/posts to anything non Hyndburn , that way you and other local residents (including Bee, can discuss to your hearts content the merits of the colour of the local dog muck fouling the pavements and argue about who had the market stall next to Uncle Dick)

[accyman]

Originally Posted by steeljack

Think the old maxim 'travel broadens the mind " and I've never had a parochial (closed/small) mind . Seems to me lots of Hyndburn locals are primed and ready to comment on US and World affairs /events and no-one complains about that .
One or two points if you want to keep things "local" maybe you should be using the HBC web-site ....oops forgot , it doesn't work , seem to remember lots of money spent but nothing to show , obivously the elected Council at the time were 'conned' into accepting a bum system on advice from Council employed IT experts ( do these folks still have jobs at HBC ?) .
Not sure , and may be wrong here (sure someone will correct me soon enough) but I'm of the understanding that the bloke/chap/guy who started , owns , operates and finances this site is or was an overseas non domiciled Brit, based somewhere in eastern Europe so maybe your anti Hyndburn resident bias is a bit off target .
I'm also supposing your against a non resident Brit owning/saving Accrington Stanley from the knackers yard , maybe all the folks who follow Stanley in the various football threads should be excluded from posting comments on Accy web , or maybe folks who live outside the Borough be banned from posting videos on the music thread , or maybe its your dislike of the occasional weather report from Canada
My suggetion ...... if you are so upset at non Hyndburn residents commenting and posting you should contact one of the moderators and have them 'isolate' our isps/posts to anything non Hyndburn , that way you and other local residents (including Bee, can discuss to your hearts content the merits of the colour of the local dog muck fouling the pavements and argue about who had the market stall next to Uncle Dick)

Aaaannnnnnd reeeeeeelax lol

ps:

have you not told them your only in the usa because you are an undercover spy and are using this forum to pass on secret information to your handler ?

oops soz about blowing your cover

[Eric]

Who did have the stall next to Uncle Dick

Oh, and it's cold and rainy here Kinda Accyish

[garinda]

I miss the old days.

I actually feel a little bereft.

Not much fun.

Just with Judy, and a few sausages.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Eric

Who did have the stall next to Uncle Dick

Wasn't it Aunt Fanny's fancy goods?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by steeljack

Think the old maxim 'travel broadens the mind " and I've never had a parochial (closed/small) mind . Seems to me lots of Hyndburn locals are primed and ready to comment on US and World affairs /events and no-one complains about that .
One or two points if you want to keep things "local" maybe you should be using the HBC web-site ....oops forgot , it doesn't work , seem to remember lots of money spent but nothing to show , obivously the elected Council at the time were 'conned' into accepting a bum system on advice from Council employed IT experts ( do these folks still have jobs at HBC ?) .
Not sure , and may be wrong here (sure someone will correct me soon enough) but I'm of the understanding that the bloke/chap/guy who started , owns , operates and finances this site is or was an overseas non domiciled Brit, based somewhere in eastern Europe so maybe your anti Hyndburn resident bias is a bit off target .
I'm also supposing your against a non resident Brit owning/saving Accrington Stanley from the knackers yard , maybe all the folks who follow Stanley in the various football threads should be excluded from posting comments on Accy web , or maybe folks who live outside the Borough be banned from posting videos on the music thread , or maybe its your dislike of the occasional weather report from Canada
My suggetion ...... if you are so upset at non Hyndburn residents commenting and posting you should contact one of the moderators and have them 'isolate' our isps/posts to anything non Hyndburn , that way you and other local residents (including Bee, can discuss to your hearts content the merits of the colour of the local dog muck fouling the pavements and argue about who had the market stall next to Uncle Dick)

It's common knowledge that the owner of this site started Accy Web, in order for those from the area to stay in touch with 'home'. Wherever in the world, the four winds wind have blown 'em.

I like our Yanky contributors.

I always picture them sat on a swing, on some porch.

Chewin' baccy.

Gun cocked.

Ready to see of any of dem damn pinko liberals.

[walkinman221]

Originally Posted by walkinman221

A little unfair that i think, graham is an accy lad so he is going to be concerned about what is going on here, after all you are in america are you not? But you still come on accy web to see whats going on here, are there no issues in the usa which concern you more? You live there at the end of the day

Guess all's right with the World and the Country and theres nowt going on in London requiring the deputy opposition whips attention , same with County Council business. From steeljacks original post

I think if you read your original post and mine they say the same thing,yours commenting on grahams other duties maybe suffering because of his attention to matters in accrington when he should be concentrating on his other duties.And mine commenting on what i thought was an unfair assumption graham was neglecting his parliamentary duties because he was commenting on this matter.You made the point that his attention should be further south , not in so many words but the inferencer was there none the less there.I merely turned that point round on you,but you didnt seem to like it and commented that i was saying that out off town/country posters should be banned(that only applies to yorkshire folk) this is not the case ,as for commenting on american/ world issues i am quite entitled to do so, as you are more than entitled to comment on english/ world issues but then again so is graham .Anyway back to the dog muck, and i will endeavour to find out for you who has the stall next to uncle dick

[walkinman221]

Can you please stop giving out weather reports for your foreign country thx