Council get something right!!

[Doug]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

What about a replica of the Pals monument in France? (built out of Nori brick)

I'd put some money in to that willow. Good idea.

[Uncle Mick]

I`ve been delving into this and could find no mention of funds to upgrade the paths and monuments or build car parking spaces. Even Gayle Knight said in last weeks Observer that they hoped to find additional funding for this, as has happened in Rossendale. However, Rossendales site is an old quarry and attracts funding due to it being derelict and having previous industrial use. As our site is open moorland gifted to the borough there would be no way we could get extra funding, so the carrot they were dangling was more of a bribe. And of course Hyndburn can`t afford to maintain it`s existing parks ( as anyone has been through Milnshaw park recently will know). Oh and according to the local plan there would have to be disabled access, that Mid Pennine Arts seem to have overlooked.
Victory for Accyweb I say!!

[WillowTheWhisp]

It looks like it just might be - but don't count your chickens too soon. We thought we'd got somewhere with the Arndale Clock - even got a front page story in the Observer but all that has come to nothing.

[chav1]

why do we need footpaths up the coppice

i thought the idea of walking up there was to get away from streets, tarmac and paths etc

simply wear appropiate footware lol i used to play up there every day and managed to get to the top wearing trainers with no problems at all

[WillowTheWhisp]

Some people aren't so fit and able, and legally we're not supposed to deprive them of our amenities but quite apart from the legality why shouldn't a less able person have the opportunity to view our illustrious borough from such a vantage point?

[chav1]

do they mean repair the current path that winds up the front of the coppice and keep them in keeping with the surroundings

ime all for the council filling in those ruts with soil and chippings etc but a tarmac path just wouldnt look right

ime sure if evened out propperly the current paths would be easily scaled by an electric scooter or somone pushing a wheelchair infact ive seen an old man going up the side path near the bowling green in an electric scooter with his dog tied to the scooter lol

pretty brave fella because its very bumpy but he must have negotiated a way through lol

[Margaret Pilkington]

I'm not going to cheer just yet as they may still do something daft. It was said in one of the papers that the earthworks would not be very prominent when seen from the town, so how are they going to attract tourists......and how would this extra money be generated???? I would really like to see the diasbled access......are they going to get Stannah in?

[park381]

Originally Posted by chav1

do they mean repair the current path that winds up the front of the coppice and keep them in keeping with the surroundings
ime all for the council filling in those ruts with soil and chippings etc but a tarmac path just wouldnt look right

Think that they would just repair, as you say in keeping with the surroundings. As have paths round the 3 peaks area Horton-in-Ribblesdale, the Dales authority have done loads of work up there,lots of path erosion,even the paths up Snowden have been repaired, they ship the stuff in by helicopter. All to do with making the areas accessable to everyone.

[lindsay ormerod]

When I said "former glory" I merely meant that it wouldn't be the vandalised,rubbish strewn mess that it is now.I do know a hill when I see one!

[Uncle Mick]

As I sat on the monument last Sunday in the beautiful sunshine, I twice witnessed an age old tradition which proved to me why I would detest a panopticon up there
Mum and Dad with small child on its first visit to the top of the Coppice. Excitedly the child dashes ahead, clambers as far as possible up the monument, then the parent places the child on top of the monument so the child is on the highest point in town. My dad did it with me and I`ve asked around and it seems to be most peoples first memory at the top of the Coppice. Mid Pennine Arts.... they havn`t got the imagination of a three year old child.

[chav1]

i dont want to thread wander but i feel the need to point out that at easter on a few occasions the cross that gets errected has been burnt to ashes

what makes these art people think that their so called art would be appreciated and not set fire to or vandalised

my first memories of the coppice are of running up it every day when i used to be a runner but my fondest memories are of the shelters on the top of the coppice and a certain lady friend and a bottle of slalom D beer

edit:

i must appologise for the use of slalom D beer i was young and didnt know any better

it was also cheap

[Margaret Pilkington]

I used to run on the top of the Coppice.....methinks that's why my knees are knackered now......but the views from up there are spectacular.
I think my first trip up there was with peel park school......on a nature/local history ramble......that is many years ago.

[park381]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I used to run on the top of the Coppice........that is many years ago.

He He, don't we all wish
sorry Margaret !

[Graham Jones]

Originally Posted by Uncle Mick

I`ve been delving into this and could find no mention of funds to upgrade the paths and monuments or build car parking spaces. Even Gayle Knight said in last weeks Observer that they hoped to find additional funding for this, as has happened in Rossendale. However, Rossendales site is an old quarry and attracts funding due to it being derelict and having previous industrial use. As our site is open moorland gifted to the borough there would be no way we could get extra funding, so the carrot they were dangling was more of a bribe. And of course Hyndburn can`t afford to maintain it`s existing parks ( as anyone has been through Milnshaw park recently will know). Oh and according to the local plan there would have to be disabled access, that Mid Pennine Arts seem to have overlooked.
Victory for Accyweb I say!!

There are the confirmed funding sources and the likely funding sources. REMADE [LCC] have advanced large funding based on the Panopticon to fund two access sites, one in Peel and one in Huncoat. Thats a 6 figure buget and will start 2006 [or be cancelled if the panoption doesn't go ahead] Froends of AH have £120,000 commitment from The Forrestry Commision and the Council through the Regional Park has an application in for £100,000 to start. Those are just starting figure without looking further. I'd like to think we could set a target of £1m over 5 years.

We not [not the shabby Tory burghers who perport to run the town!] have been looking with a lot of agencies at the potential, and its massive. There are three access points to upgrade. The Hodder Street entrance is currently in process of being regenerated helped by the Panopticon scheme.

Paths. Different ideas are being floated. Cycle access, disabled access, some non disabled access in steep areas with drainage probs. Different surfaces.

There are 3 main points to this project
1 strategic network - coppice links into everything else
2 facility upgrade and management - the coppice
3.Access and information points - outside of the coppice signs car parking leaflets promotions etc...

Hope that helps
Cllr Graham Jones - Peel ward
http://www.peelward.ic24.net

[park381]

Originally Posted by Graham Jones

There are the confirmed funding sources and the likely funding sources. REMADE [LCC] have advanced large funding based on the Panopticon to fund two access sites, one in Peel and one in Huncoat.
Hope that helps
Cllr Graham Jones - Peel ward
http://www.peelward.ic24.net

From the REMADE business plan, the areas identified for remade1 seem to be
Aspen colliery&coke ovens oswaldtwistle
Within grove huncoat
Star delph quarry Gt harwood
You can view that plan here http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/environ...ber%202003.pdf
Check the salary levels for running the scheme and the on costs in maintaining after.