Council homes to have fixed term tenancies - Page 2

blazey · 07-08-2010, 13:54

The stigma of council housing doesn't come from snobbery, it's something that quite commonly arises during high school bitchiness as a way of making someone feel humiliated, and it isn't necessarily coming from people who are in that much of a better position either.

Council houses are commonly though not always in rough areas where crime rates are high, as is unemployment and there is a general poor standard of living. There are nice areas with council houses of course, and a lot of that comes down to the council in that area and what schemes are available to keep young people busy with legal, community friendly things to do and adults occupied with activities a bit more creative than being drunk, high etc.

I live in a council house now in a nice area but I used to live up Fern Gore and that was a completely different environment really. I didn't mind either but I know which I would choose now if I had to.

Mancie · 08-08-2010, 01:21

I must have lived in a different Britian to most posters on here.. I've never thought of a council house as some sort of gift from the welfare state that dependend on anyones income...why should any family living in council housing be subjected to an earnings test every 10 years?....this stinks to high heaven of a Thatcerite policy of turning council houses into temp accomodation .. and forcing normal rent paying working people into the private landlords slums of the 30's... it stinks ... we all know it does but yet you have those that defend these policies..

Hiddlebit · 08-08-2010, 06:25

It's a throwback to before World War I. A land fit for heroes?

Not ruddy likely with this bunch in power.

Council housing is not cheap - you still have to pay a commercial rent by law introduced by the Tories last time they were in power. Low income is irrelevant to social housing. It's just a way to force all property into the private sector for Dave's mates.

Boeing Guy · 08-08-2010, 07:17

So true really, back to working at 14 and rickets for all.

i do not remember Labour instigating a massive council house building project while they were in power

Boeing Guy · 08-08-2010, 07:19

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turning council houses into temp accomodation

Why not, don't people want to better themselves, there are a good number of workshy people out there who could move up the property ladder. Its called pride.
That way the majority of these properties would be free to help those in real need, not just those who take because they can

Eric · 08-08-2010, 08:47

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Why not, don't people want to better themselves, there are a good number of workshy people out there who could move up the property ladder. Its called pride.
That way the majority of these properties would be free to help those in real need, not just those who take because they can

This is all really quite vague; and it raises many more questions than it attempts to answer. The rhetorical question about "people (wanting) to better themselves" begs questions concerning "better". Do folks become better merely by becoming wealthier? Is wealth the measure of man? Are the wealthiest therefore the best? The tories certainly seem to think so. And is pride nothing more than the aquisition of property? I remember when pride involved, among many other things, polishing the brass on the door, cleaning the windows, and stoning the front step. I remember when people were proud of being working class.

And who are these people in "real need"? And why, in one of the richest countries in the world are they in "real need"? Is it really the fault of the "workshy" that there are people in "real need"?

lancsdave · 08-08-2010, 09:12

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Originally Posted by Eric

Do folks become better merely by becoming wealthier? Is wealth the measure of man? Are the wealthiest therefore the best?

You only need to watch tv programmes where you see the fancy houses and cars, then you realise you're watching a programme about the police and the property and cars are those owned by people who have used crime to get them.

Isn't 10 Downing St a council house ? After all it's not owned privately owned

lancsdave · 08-08-2010, 09:13

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Originally Posted by blazey

I live in a council house now in a nice area but I used to live up Fern Gore and that was a completely different environment really. I didn't mind either but I know which I would choose now if I had to.

sometimes I sit back and realise what a good choice other people have made

Boeing Guy · 08-08-2010, 09:24

Well i was brought up to believe in self reliance. The state is their to help those who cannot work not those who don't want to.
Where I come from wealth is defined as this: being able to keep the roof over your head, pay the bills put food on the table and have a bit left over for yourself. if that is not right please let me know.

flashy · 08-08-2010, 09:24

when i was growing up we lived in council houses, my mum was a single parent of 3 who ALWAYS worked, she never claimed any benefits....what does it matter as long as you are paying your rent on time? its utter bollox if you ask me

lancsdave · 08-08-2010, 09:45

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Why not, don't people want to better themselves, there are a good number of workshy people out there who could move up the property ladder. Its called pride.
That way the majority of these properties would be free to help those in real need, not just those who take because they can

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Well i was brought up to believe in self reliance. The state is their to help those who cannot work not those who don't want to.
Where I come from wealth is defined as this: being able to keep the roof over your head, pay the bills put food on the table and have a bit left over for yourself. if that is not right please let me know.

You seem to be contradicting yourself BG. One minute you measure pride byhow far up the property ladder you can climb,( and in effect saying if you don't own your own property you have no pride ) then you measure it by being able to support yourself and your family. I wouldn't use the latter to measure wealth.

Boeing Guy · 08-08-2010, 09:52

Yes I see what you mean lancsdave, I lived in a council property, I now own, through a mortgage my own home.
I never intended to upset anyone who was happy to live in rented accommodation. I have the belief that it is better to own your own home rather than rent.
I was referring to people who have no interest in working and are milking the system for everything they can get.
I feel that if you are working you should have a level of pride.
Sorry if I have confused you. heck i have confused myself and I have not been near the special brew

lancsdave · 08-08-2010, 10:12

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Sorry if I have confused you. heck i have confused myself and I have not been near the special brew

Thats why I rarely touch the stuff, it makes sure I remain sound in mind and body. I only post on here to see how non-normal people live life

jaysay · 08-08-2010, 10:19

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

Thats why I rarely touch the stuff, it makes sure I remain sound in mind and body. I only post on here to see how non-normal people live life

Give us six Dave

Benipete · 08-08-2010, 10:29

I wonder how many couples live in 2 houses/flats,both paid for out of Benefits but they keep them both on just in case.

I refer to couples that live together for most of the time.

Don't say it Isn't happening because it is.