councils coat of arms illegal?

the real michael · 17-02-2008, 09:47

I AM looking at
their new PLAEGORISED coat of arms their design is illegal ... just as illegal as them taking greenbelt land... for hyndburn council to show a "full acheivement" coat of arms
must mean there is a real blood link to a knight... as a family who carries a genuine full
acheivement coat of arms i find hyndburn council "IMPOSTURES" (Q), just for the record, nowadays every surname can buy a coat of arms but it may not be genuine i.e. "full acheivement" in which it would have to be earned the old fashioned way ... most family crests are not coats of arms dont confuse them, hbc,s last crest ( bambi ) was typical
of thoughtless pointless artwork ,which to an outsider is one of the funniest logos ive seen, like which primary school did they take it from? but now some thought has been put into this one i see... i wonder where they plaegerised it ... more fuel to the fire in which they will burn... if there are any of hbc/s employees reading this then please take note, its perfectly legal to make a coat of arms, anyone can make a coat of arms ...
but it is illegal to make a "full acheivement" coat of arms and looking at it now this is the
latter... so if their are no knights or anyone blood related to king david then i suggest
you rethink the logo and remove the acheivements then at least the people who are more informed about our country and its protocols
will know the truth... that you have earned absolutely NOTHING.

harwood red · 17-02-2008, 09:58

this is not a new coat of arms, it has been used by Hyndburn since 1974 but just not as the council's logo

MargaretR · 17-02-2008, 10:07

Which one is it ?
I have found two - one in local press and another from a civic heraldry site

harwood red · 17-02-2008, 10:08

its the second one margaret, according to the citizen's website

MargaretR · 17-02-2008, 10:17

The 2 anorexic lions one !

I much prefer the other -- IF we have to have one at all

lancsdave · 17-02-2008, 10:23

Does anyone really take notice of it anyway ?

MargaretR · 17-02-2008, 10:26

It just increases stationery printing costs ----waste

harwood red · 17-02-2008, 10:39

The first one is used by Accrington Stanley

Wynonie Harris · 17-02-2008, 10:41

Surely, the first one is the old Accrington coat-of-arms that used to be on the buses, refuse wagons etc?

Acrylic-bob · 17-02-2008, 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by the real michael

I AM looking at
their new PLAEGORISED coat of arms their design is illegal ... just as illegal as them taking greenbelt land... for hyndburn council to show a "full acheivement" coat of arms
must mean there is a real blood link to a knight... as a family who carries a genuine full
acheivement coat of arms i find hyndburn council "IMPOSTURES" (Q), just for the record, nowadays every surname can buy a coat of arms but it may not be genuine i.e. "full acheivement" in which it would have to be earned the old fashioned way ... most family crests are not coats of arms dont confuse them, hbc,s last crest ( bambi ) was typical
of thoughtless pointless artwork ,which to an outsider is one of the funniest logos ive seen, like which primary school did they take it from? but now some thought has been put into this one i see... i wonder where they plaegerised it ... more fuel to the fire in which they will burn... if there are any of hbc/s employees reading this then please take note, its perfectly legal to make a coat of arms, anyone can make a coat of arms ...
but it is illegal to make a "full acheivement" coat of arms and looking at it now this is the
latter... so if their are no knights or anyone blood related to king david then i suggest
you rethink the logo and remove the acheivements then at least the people who are more informed about our country and its protocols
will know the truth... that you have earned absolutely NOTHING.

I think you are labouring under something of a misapprehension here.

This, from the government website directgov,

Military medals and coats of arms : Directgov - Rights and responsibilities

would seem to argue that HBC has done nothing "illegal" whatsoever and is perfectly entitled to its achievment of arms, supporters and all. Where some obscure Jewish bronze age monarch comes into the argument is a bit beyond me though.

the real michael · 17-02-2008, 17:02

thanx 4 info but they are still taking the ****..... and i swear every time i see that fake
logo i will burn it down. ... wherever it is attached to... they have no right
to copy my familys heraldry because simply there is not one member of hbc who is brave
or intelligent enough to adorn one...the imbeciles should stick to glorfying monkeys like a/pals or bending over
and taking it up the arse from brussels...
this is war..........

WillowTheWhisp · 17-02-2008, 18:24

What is it that you claim they have copied? Has this not been granted to the Borough by the powers that be?

Acrylic-bob · 17-02-2008, 19:00

I am sure that the Royal College of Heralds are most punctilious in their formulations. And while it is true that certain heraldic symbols appear in the arms of many different families, it is the precise combination of elements and colours that is the unique signifier. Simply because a grant of arms contains an image of, say, a lion, it does not mean that the image has been stolen from another grant, but rather that these images are merely the alphabet of heraldry.

WillowTheWhisp · 17-02-2008, 19:49

Has the Council actually been granted this Coat of Arms by the Royal College of Heralds or have they just come up with a pretty picture off their own bat? If the former then it must be legit. If the latter, then they ought to know better.

cashman · 17-02-2008, 19:51

well my moneys on legit.