Crisis At Royal Blackburn - Page 3

jaysay · 21-01-2011, 11:42

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Originally Posted by heth

I would actually sack myself John as I could not live with knowing that people are suffering/dying unnecessarily just so I have a job.
I would also use alot stronger word than leeches but Neil will shout at me!

Neil doesn't shout heth he just deletes

steeljack · 22-01-2011, 05:01

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Originally Posted by jaysay

My beef has never been with any front line staff heth, its with the ones in the ivory towers, you know, the ones that sit there all day on 50 or 60 grand a year and are nowhere to be seen after 5pm or weekends as they are probable polishing their top of the range cars that go with the job

Your not refering to a voted out Labour County Councillor are you , like the one who was given an administration job that was never advertised

steeljack · 22-01-2011, 05:44

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Your not refering to a voted out Labour County Councillor are you , like the one who was given an administration job that was never advertised

sorry timed out on adding this link
Welcome to East Lancashire Hospitals NHS Trust - www.elht.nhs.uk

not bad , get voted out in June and get appointed to a part-time sinecure paying £23K p.a. 3 months later , suppose it helps to top up her pension , who says they don't look after their own

heth · 22-01-2011, 07:44

P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C.
Dont know how they sleep at night

Benipete · 22-01-2011, 08:35

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Originally Posted by heth

P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C.
Dont know how they sleep at night

They get free sleeping pills

heth · 22-01-2011, 08:39

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Originally Posted by Benipete

They get free sleeping pills

Aye I thought that after posting!

jaysay · 22-01-2011, 09:48

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Your not refering to a voted out Labour County Councillor are you , like the one who was given an administration job that was never advertised

Don't get me started, don't care who or what they are SJ to me anybody purporting to RUN the NHS should have a clinical background and know just whats want at the sharp end with the emphasis being more on the shop floor and less paper pushers, then we might get somewhere, and that includes this government too

heth · 22-01-2011, 09:57

Here,Here

DaveinGermany · 22-01-2011, 12:35

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Originally Posted by heth

P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C.
Dont know how they sleep at night

Well it's certainly not in the Hospital in a single sex ward !

jaysay · 22-01-2011, 15:07

Concerning The Royal Blackburn, I've just received an outpatients appointment, just the usual time date etc., but on the back there was a update your details, plus asking about your ethnicity as in the the box if your white British, outer-Mongolian etc you get the drift

then at the bottom there was this notice headed Overseas Visitor Policy, which read

There are national regulations about who is entitled to free NHS Hospital treatment and it is in the interest of the public that all hospitals ensure these regulations are enforced. If this is your first visit to this Trust you must provide proof of residency in the UK and this must be produced when you book in for your appointment.

This must be two separate documents from the following list:

Birth Certificate, Utility Bill, Bank Statement, Passport, Entry Clearance documents or Ancestral Visa

Can't say I've ever seen that before, especially the bottom bit about overseas visitors

DaveinGermany · 22-01-2011, 15:51

Stating what's required is one thing, the actual implementation is another thing entirely !

Margaret Pilkington · 22-01-2011, 16:28

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Concerning The Royal Blackburn, I've just received an outpatients appointment, just the usual time date etc., but on the back there was a update your details, plus asking about your ethnicity as in the the box if your white British, outer-Mongolian etc you get the drift

then at the bottom there was this notice headed Overseas Visitor Policy, which read

There are national regulations about who is entitled to free NHS Hospital treatment and it is in the interest of the public that all hospitals ensure these regulations are enforced. If this is your first visit to this Trust you must provide proof of residency in the UK and this must be produced when you book in for your appointment.

This must be two separate documents from the following list:

Birth Certificate, Utility Bill, Bank Statement, Passport, Entry Clearance documents or Ancestral Visa

Can't say I've ever seen that before, especially the bottom bit about overseas visitors

Hooray, Hooray again. Not a minute before time....however, there is always a fly in the ointment.
Getting the details is one thing...getting the money from them to pay the bill is another one entirely.......but give them E for effort.

Margaret Pilkington · 22-01-2011, 16:32

I've been gone 8 years and only now are they doing the things which I banged on about while I was there.

John I agree with you about those who run the NHS having some experience of things at the sharp end.........I would have every single NHS manager work on the frontline(dealing with patients) for a whole year before they could even think of doing the management bit.........they would have to do portering, HCA'ing, records and reception duties, serving meals, cleaning the wards(obviously they would need supervision for all these things).

heth · 22-01-2011, 17:16

I agree with you Margaret, if they can earn to be in a high position job they will treat others better and make better decissions.

They havent had to work night shift, had to deal with confused/agitated patients who will not settle or had to be in 10 places at once like our nurses not to mention all the other things they have to do.

jaysay · 22-01-2011, 17:18

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I've been gone 8 years and only now are they doing the things which I banged on about while I was there.

John I agree with you about those who run the NHS having some experience of things at the sharp end.........I would have every single NHS manager work on the frontline(dealing with patients) for a whole year before they could even think of doing the management bit.........they would have to do portering, HCA'ing, records and reception duties, serving meals, cleaning the wards(obviously they would need supervision for all these things).

That's how it should be Margaret, but I think I'll be walking on water before it happens, can you actually see these nonce's getting their hands dirty on the wards bed pans, making beds, feeding patients, helping them get washed, not a snowball in hells chance