Dale Cregan

[Rowlf]

Killing a police officer is regarded as worse than a Joe Blogs but I suppose that is because the police represent the Crown in a way. The low life that killed that little girl in Wales got a full life sentence a couple of weeks ago though, I think life should mean life for murder who ever is killed. As for the scum who do things like the man in Wales I would put them in a room with the father and some other male relatives and after half an hour we would not have to bother paying out all the cash to keep them for years in jail. It is time the jails were made more spartan . I read this week where a new one in Scotland is being built with fitted carpets,tv in all cells etc. They would be back on bread and water if I had my way.

[walkinman221]

Apparently this scumbags trial has cost Lancashire £2.3m , should have just slotted the bastard and saved us a fortune.

[gpick24]

Originally Posted by walkinman221

Apparently this scumbags trial has cost Lancashire £2.3m , should have just slotted the bastard and saved us a fortune.

Amen to that.

[Studio25]

Originally Posted by cashman

Yeh as far as i'm concerned it is, a life is a life when murdered, unless you think different?

Two of his victims would have done the same thing to him, given the opportunity. The other two of his victims (thought they) were on there way to help a member of the public who'd had his windows put through.

Yes - I think different.

[keith higson]

Here in Australia a few of "those things" that commit murder have been given relatavely light setence due the the Judge saying that the murder was not one of the worse kind of muder.

Bloody hell Murder is Murder, its a pity that some of the judicial have their heads in the clouds (or somewhere else)

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Studio25

Two of his victims would have done the same thing to him, given the opportunity. The other two of his victims (thought they) were on there way to help a member of the public who'd had his windows put through.

Yes - I think different.

Somehow that comes as no surprise to me.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Not too long to wait Wyn before the politicos return to tell us how good they are for us and how they will represent the wishes of the electorate - the usual misrepresentations from the usual culprits when it is time for us to vote.

That's a long way off Barrie, at least 10 months until the May council elections

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by keith higson

Here in Australia a few of "those things" that commit murder have been given relatavely light setence due the the Judge saying that the murder was not one of the worse kind of muder.

Bloody hell Murder is Murder, its a pity that some of the judicial have their heads in the clouds (or somewhere else)

I think the problem is Keith that the upper ends of the judiciary in any country don't live in the real world, in this country Judges are transported to and from court in Limo's and live in Ivory Towers, it might be an idea if they were made to spend 12 months living on a council estate in say Nottingham or Bristol, think the sentencing might improve if this hapened

[maxthecollie]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I think the problem is Keith that the upper ends of the judiciary in any country don't live in the real world, in this country Judges are transported to and from court in Limo's and live in Ivory Towers, it might be an idea if they were made to spend 12 months living on a council estate in say Nottingham or Bristol, think the sentencing might improve if this hapened

He wouldn't live on a council estate in Nottingham. He would be the next murder victim.

[DaveinGermany]

I wonder if the judges would be so condescending & lenient if it had been someone from their family or friends who'd been murdered or abused?

[davebtelford]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

Killing a police officer is regarded as worse than a Joe Blogs but I suppose that is because the police represent the Crown in a way.

I think it's because the police HAVE to confront these scumbags on a regular basis - the rest of us have the option to run away if we can.

Anyway there is never going to be a return to capital punishment and we will have to reconcile ourselves to the fact that we will have to fork out to keep murderers in jail in humane conditions for life or for as long as the judges and parole board see fit.

If you can change it - change it, if you can't - then stop worrying about it?

[cashman]

Unlikely to change no doubt, but saying nowt will "Never" change anything.

[westendlass]

Perhaps someone should show Cregan a hand grenade through the hatch of his cell door then open it and lob it in.

[cashman]

That would ruin the tiling though.

[westendlass]

Yes but at least the cell would have been fumigated against vermin.