Degree Level for nursing - Page 4

webglynne · 23-11-2009, 01:07

I heard a damning account from a labour member on this, even some the governments’ own party are violently against this. “Left to lie on fouled night clothes!” was one thing she told us.

Lolly · 23-11-2009, 09:50

Because we all believe what Labour tells us!!

Thankyou Margaret. I know there are that type of nurse about, but some in this thread have claimed all nurses are like that and would prefer to be treated by others, not that they don't do a fantatic job, if anyone knows what its like to be a care giver first and foremost its me.

webglynne · 23-11-2009, 16:17

I am a carer!

I am just about to post on Gordon Conochies’ blog, he works for the Princess Royal Trust for Carers.

I cannot ask there as I was banned for protesting about a death threat and constant attacks made on me by the owner of a hate site that they went onto give help and support too. They just don’t care!

They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that carers read the comments in here. They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that you learn they support hate by allowing attacks of Clive Arnold made by friends of the hate site owner to stay on their boards . They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that you learn that they allow death threats on their boards. They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that I ask these questions. They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that you know they ignore emails from me about abolishing child carers. They just don’t care!

http://carersblog.wordpress.com/2009...e/#comment-159

webglynne · 23-11-2009, 21:57

A good website for carers.

It may be off topic but this is for I am a care giver and any others .

webglynne · 23-11-2009, 22:01

Training in a pilchard packing factory? Head to toe in one bed!

cashman · 23-11-2009, 22:17

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Originally Posted by webglynne

I am a carer!

I am just about to post on Gordon Conochies’ blog, he works for the Princess Royal Trust for Carers.

I cannot ask there as I was banned for protesting about a death threat and constant attacks made on me by the owner of a hate site that they went onto give help and support too. They just don’t care!

They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that carers read the comments in here. They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that you learn they support hate by allowing attacks of Clive Arnold made by friends of the hate site owner to stay on their boards . They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that you learn that they allow death threats on their boards. They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that I ask these questions. They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that you know they ignore emails from me about abolishing child carers. They just don’t care!

Carers policy in Scotland – a mixed picture « CarersBlog

i don't care much when i read posts n don't know what the hell yer rabbiting about.

Eric · 24-11-2009, 08:36

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Originally Posted by cashman

i don't care much when i read posts n don't know what the hell yer rabbiting about.

Me niether

.... I could eat Alphabet Soup and defecate more sense

Benipete · 24-11-2009, 08:55

Well I've read it three times and I do not care to try and read it again.Makes no sense to me at all

lettie · 24-11-2009, 14:28

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Originally Posted by Neil

I don't agree with that.

Everyone can make a difference by doing their job to the best of their ability.

Of course everyone can make a difference to direct patient care. I was referring to the more cultural aspect of general hospital work. As a junior nurse I was totally fed up with being brow beaten by senior staff who wouldn't change practices because.....'This is the way we've always done it etc.' even though evidence showed that it would be better done another way. That is just one kind of example and very difficult to change things for the better as a junior unless, you have a supportive senior colleague to back you up.

When I was newly qualified I found supportive senior colleagues to be in short supply to be perfectly honest, especially when it came to changing practices. Now, as a senior, I try to encourage junior staff with their ideas and encourage them to come up with the evidence that backs up their ideas. Getting a degree gave me new confidence and motivation and I have no qualms about challenging bad practice wether it be from nursing colleagues, consultants or managers and that's the kind of difference I was referring to

accyman · 24-11-2009, 14:46

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Originally Posted by webglynne

I am a carer!

I am just about to post on Gordon Conochies’ blog, he works for the Princess Royal Trust for Carers.

I cannot ask there as I was banned for protesting about a death threat and constant attacks made on me by the owner of a hate site that they went onto give help and support too. They just don’t care!

They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that carers read the comments in here. They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that you learn they support hate by allowing attacks of Clive Arnold made by friends of the hate site owner to stay on their boards . They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that you learn that they allow death threats on their boards. They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that I ask these questions. They just don’t care!

They just don’t care that you know they ignore emails from me about abolishing child carers. They just don’t care!

Carers policy in Scotland – a mixed picture « CarersBlog

heres a phone card , go ring someone who gives a fcuk ya demented sod lol

say hi to gordon whoever the hell he is

webglynne · 27-11-2009, 16:35

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Originally Posted by Eric

Me niether

.... I could eat Alphabet Soup and defecate more sense

Stay clear of the spaghetti and try fish, it is said that it helps the brain. You may then be able to read deeper than just the surface, they don’t care!

Some people do not care, they see a job of work and nothing more than a piggy bank, a money pit, they have no respect for the job, none for the employers nor for any they come in contact with. Far to many now are only too willing to do the minimum of work for the maximum of money and they just don’t care that you know that!

Lolly · 27-11-2009, 18:09

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Originally Posted by webglynne

Some people do not care, they see a job of work and nothing more than a piggy bank, a money pit, they have no respect for the job, none for the employers nor for any they come in contact with. Far to many now are only too willing to do the minimum of work for the maximum of money and they just don’t care that you know that!

I'd love to here you say that to anyone I work with!! I don't know where you work but that certainly does not apply to anybody I work with.

Its virtually impossible to do the minimum amount of work in my job. We all work bloody hard.

Guinness · 27-11-2009, 22:58

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Originally Posted by Lolly

I'd love to here you say that to anyone I work with!! I don't know where you work but that certainly does not apply to anybody I work with.

Its virtually impossible to do the minimum amount of work in my job. We all work bloody hard.

You actually prove the point I made earlier in the thread.

You are the exact type of person that I want looking after me.

You are a 'mere' carer/support worker (whatever the new PC word is).... BUT....

You won't leave me in a wet bed, i'll get a cup of tea in a clean cup, the floor of my room will be clean, I wont miss my medication, I'll be clean, I'll be fed, you'll notice if soomething is wrong with me.

You have more up to date training, more people looking over your shoulder ensuring you do the job properly, more paperwork, worse hours than nurses, more t's to cross and i's to dot, more hoops to jump through, you are on crap wages (around half of a nurse), you are often understaffed (because the people you work for are in it for the profit)....you work BLOODY hard!...ain't no way a carer/support worker can do a minimum amount.

If it needs doing you have to do it, you cant blame it on the cleaner/cook/auxiliary/laundry person...because you are more often than not all 4, the buck stops with you.

You do the job because you care.

You are what true 'nursing' is all about.

(And you would have blown the whistle at Basildon and Thurrock)

webglynne · 28-11-2009, 01:16

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Originally Posted by Lolly

I'd love to here you say that to anyone I work with!! I don't know where you work but that certainly does not apply to anybody I work with.

Its virtually impossible to do the minimum amount of work in my job. We all work bloody hard.

I did say some people, and the post after yours rather proves that point does it not? To get to that stage there had to be more than just a couple happy to skive.

Scally · 05-12-2009, 21:53

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Originally Posted by Benipete

Well I've read it three times and I do not care to try and read it again.Makes no sense to me at all

Hi all. I think webglynne has that effect on people. He has been going on and on about this so called "Death Threat for months and when I asked about it, apparently it was an popular Italian proverb that basically says: "hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil" . I think he needs to invest in a better Italian - English dictionary. The poor fellow was being advised to look before he leaped, so to speak. Sadly it seems he still hasnt quite got the hang of it...