Detention without charge poll

[accyman]

terrorism is like cancer , you have to take some of the good to be sure you get all the bad

im sure if you google enough there will be cases where guilty people have been let go because time ran out to question them and they went on to commit terroism

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by accyman

wasnt a girl from accrington killed on 7/7 ?

for a young tory who i assume is hoping to enter accrington polotics i do hope that it gets remembered that he is all for less been done to catch people who do things like this

So much ignorance in this thread. Disagreeing is fine but being blatently ignorant to what I am saying is another thing.

[Gayle]

On the subject of ignoring - have you bothered answering my question yet?

[Loz]

Originally Posted by andrewb

I talked to Rachel North, 7/7 survivor. She said 42 days would not help because it was not needed. She said doing what we've done increasing the detention is doing the terrorists job for them. All they want to do is take our freedom and they're suceeding unfortunately.

So the Tories agenda goes something along the lines of; Do less about terrorism, hug a hoodie etc?

Wow, you've got my vote

[garinda]

Originally Posted by andrewb

They're as innocent as anybody else who is arrested and then let go.

...and can be financially compensated.

Sadly the innocent victims of terrorism don't find much use for money, after they're dead.

[Lilly]

Originally Posted by garinda

Not silly.

A fair question.

In law she had more than served the sentence for the crimes she committed.

Would you be campaiging for her release, because her freedom was important?

I think Myra Hindley would have had to be released if she hadn't conveniently died.

As you say, she had served longer than her original sentence so the government would have had to release her.

However, no government wants to be remembered as the government who released Myra Hindley.

I wonder if she really is dead or if we were just told that and she's living abroad somewhere......I don't remember seeing any photos from the funeral in the papers.

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by Loz

So the Tories agenda goes something along the lines of; Do less about terrorism, hug a hoodie etc?

Wow, you've got my vote

No, not at all. As I said, lock them up and throw away the key, if they're guilty.

Locking innocent people up is wrong. It creates more anger in communities where terrorism has originated in the past. Its counter productive.

[garinda]

Even this second poll on the subject looks just like your party's attempt to block increased security measures, i.e. it's failed.

How long does it take for a loser to realise he's lost?

[accyman]

Detention without charge poll

i think it should be free , holding a person is one thing but charging them is ridiculous

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by Gayle

On the subject of ignoring - have you bothered answering my question yet?

I have done?

[Loz]

Originally Posted by andrewb

No, not at all. As I said, lock them up and throw away the key, if they're guilty.

Locking innocent people up is wrong. It creates more anger in communities where terrorism has originated in the past. Its counter productive.

Yeah but surely the point of detaining them is to find out if they are guilty?
You can't try and gather evidence on people without arresting them because you could be risking national security.

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by Loz

Yeah but surely the point of detaining them is to find out if they are guilty?
You can't try and gather evidence on people without arresting them because you could be risking national security.

Indeed, but 42 days is too much. The crown prosecution service themselves say that 28 days is easily enough. Thats why I don't back 42 days legislation, it is just being used to make the government look tough, while achieving nothing.

[Gayle]

Originally Posted by andrewb

Quite simply because the legislation allows anyone to be detained without any evidence at all. They can be detained for the whole period 'just incase' some eviendence were to come to light. I don't think its right to do this to innocent people, it should just be terrorists punished.

They're as innocent as anybody else who is arrested and then let go.

But you haven't answered my question at all. What is it about some people that makes the police want to detain them? Are innocent people being victimised randomly? You are making it sound like the police randomly swoop on innocent people and detain them without any reason i.e. just plucking them off the street. What I want to know is why these people are plucked off the street in the first place - what makes the police think they are terrorists.

Do you have any case studies?

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by garinda

Even this second poll on the subject looks just like your party's attempt to block increased security measures, i.e. it's failed.

How long does it take for a loser to realise he's lost?

Well I've not lost elsewhere. Only on Accringtonweb. It doesn't help when you're here spreading ignorant views.

[Loz]

28 days is probably excessive in some cases but not enough in other cases.
Who is to say what length of time is long enough anyway?