|
General Chat General chat - common sense in here please. Decent serious discussions to be enjoyed by everyone! |
|
|
Welcome to Accrington Web!
We are a discussion forum dedicated to the towns of Accrington, Oswaldtwistle and the surrounding areas, sometimes referred to as Hyndburn! We are a friendly bunch please feel free to browse or read on for more info. You are currently viewing our site as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, photos, play in the community arcade and use our blog section. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so please, join our community today!
|
View Poll Results: Given half of those detained to 28 days were innocent, do you:
|
Oppose an increase to 42 days without charge
|
|
5 |
27.78% |
Support an increase to 42 days without charge
|
|
13 |
72.22% |
14-07-2008, 22:18
|
#91
|
Senior Member+
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: cloud 9!
Posts: 4,924
Liked: 6 times
Rep Power: 2949
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
Andrew............................................ .................
Shhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
__________________
Like the old woman who lived in a shoe, i have so many children i can't fit the tickers in my signature.....
I finally found someone daft enough to marry me, my wonderboy is 11, my monkeygirl is 3 and my bananaman is 2, my beautiful little flower was born in feb 2012
|
|
|
14-07-2008, 22:21
|
#92
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: accrington
Posts: 838
Liked: 3 times
Rep Power: 47
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by emamum23
Andrew............................................ .................
Shhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
|
I think thats one of the most sensible things that has been posted all night!
Wish i had thought of it sooner!
__________________
Diesels' Wife!!
|
|
|
14-07-2008, 22:28
|
#93
|
Give, give, give member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Overlookin' ducks & geese
Posts: 32,411
Liked: 27 times
Rep Power: 16468
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb
Quite clear that the majority of people on Accringtonweb couldn't care less about locking up innocents. All I can say is I hope it never happens to you or your families.
|
Hurrah!
Yes, the majority of us obviously care more about saving innocent lives, than we do about fourteen more days incarceration of suspected terrorists.
Now go and have a little lie down in this nice padded cell.
__________________
'If you're going to be a Kant, be the very best Kant there is my son.'
Johann Georg Kant, father of Immanuel Kant, philosopher.
|
|
|
14-07-2008, 22:30
|
#94
|
God Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 7,359
Liked: 1351 times
Rep Power: 47222
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb
God I can't believe I'm having to argue these things just because people want to find any possible way to make my argument invalid.
.
|
you started the whole thing but i am sory if the whole world dosnt agree with you , perhaps you should leave the country and go into politics somewhere more favourable to your liking
i hear iraq is missing a dictatorship
__________________
All comments above are everything to do with here and therefore the resposibility of the Accrington Web website owners admins and mods.
ive just started a relationship with a blind woman !Its quite rewarding but quite challenging ! it took me ages to get her husbands voice right
|
|
|
14-07-2008, 22:37
|
#95
|
Apprentice Geriatric
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Darwen, Lancashire
Posts: 3,706
Liked: 0 times
Rep Power: 88
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
Isn’t one of the reasons why many people don’t want corporal punishment brought back because it is better to let nine potentially guilty go free than hang one innocent person.
So shouldn’t that principle apply to this issue? Or is it yet again a case of double standards depending which way the wind is blowing?
|
|
|
14-07-2008, 22:42
|
#96
|
Give, give, give member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Overlookin' ducks & geese
Posts: 32,411
Liked: 27 times
Rep Power: 16468
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty
Isn’t one of the reasons why many people don’t want corporal punishment brought back because it is better to let nine potentially guilty go free than hang one innocent person.
So shouldn’t that principle apply to this issue? Or is it yet again a case of double standards depending which way the wind is blowing?
|
Perhaps you should write to David Davis.
That fighter for freedom and liberty also supports the return of the death penalty.
BBC NEWS | Politics | Tories' Davis backs death penalty
I wonder how he would try to compensate those innocents who might be hanged.
Rather makes a mockery of his worries about fourteen more days in jail for those poor innocents, who are suspected of terrorism.
__________________
'If you're going to be a Kant, be the very best Kant there is my son.'
Johann Georg Kant, father of Immanuel Kant, philosopher.
|
|
|
14-07-2008, 22:46
|
#97
|
Coffin Dodger.
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda
Perhaps you should write to David Davis.
That fighter for freedom and liberty also supports the return of the death penalty.
BBC NEWS | Politics | Tories' Davis backs death penalty
I wonder how he would try to compensate those innocents who might be hanged.
Rather makes a mockery of his worries about fourteen more days in jail for those poor innocents, who are suspected of terrorism.
|
sorry mate have to spread it around. :ro fl38:
__________________
N.L.T.B.G.Y.D. Do not argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
|
|
|
14-07-2008, 22:49
|
#98
|
God Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 7,359
Liked: 1351 times
Rep Power: 47222
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty
Isn’t one of the reasons why many people don’t want corporal punishment brought back because it is better to let nine potentially guilty go free than hang one innocent person.
So shouldn’t that principle apply to this issue? Or is it yet again a case of double standards depending which way the wind is blowing?
|
i would love to see the death penalty back infact i think having it back would improve things a great deal and with more advanced forensics it would be highly unlikely we got the wrong person
just think how many less murderers woudl be walking our streets today or how many children would have been saved from abuse if the pedophile had been executed and not relased to do it again
anyway thats another post waiting to happen but im strongly behind holding people untill all avenues have been explored
i dont have any worries about been held indefinatly because i hardly fit the profile of a terrorist nor do i hang around with people that would bring suspition of terrorist activity upon me
__________________
All comments above are everything to do with here and therefore the resposibility of the Accrington Web website owners admins and mods.
ive just started a relationship with a blind woman !Its quite rewarding but quite challenging ! it took me ages to get her husbands voice right
|
|
|
14-07-2008, 22:50
|
#99
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: accrington
Posts: 838
Liked: 3 times
Rep Power: 47
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
Wonder what your views are on the death penalty andrew?
Do you support davies on this too?
How stupid to be against an extra 12 days detention for terroists but support hangings!
At least if innocent people are locked up they can get on with their lives afterwards.
Theres no going back if you kill an innocent person.
__________________
Diesels' Wife!!
|
|
|
14-07-2008, 22:54
|
#100
|
Give, give, give member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Overlookin' ducks & geese
Posts: 32,411
Liked: 27 times
Rep Power: 16468
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loz
Do you support davies on this too?
How stupid to be against an extra 12 days detention for terroists but support hangings!
|
Perhaps he's not that passionate about people's freedom after all.
Perhaps it was just one big ego trip....at the tax payer's expense.
__________________
'If you're going to be a Kant, be the very best Kant there is my son.'
Johann Georg Kant, father of Immanuel Kant, philosopher.
|
|
|
14-07-2008, 22:57
|
#101
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: accrington
Posts: 838
Liked: 3 times
Rep Power: 47
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda
Perhaps he's not that passionate about people's freedom after all.
Perhaps it was just one big ego trip....at the tax payer's expense.
|
Yeah how could he make such a fuss as to resign over the 42 day ruling then openly support the death penalty?
I agree wholeheartedly about the waste of taxpayers money too.
__________________
Diesels' Wife!!
|
|
|
14-07-2008, 22:57
|
#102
|
God Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Accrington
Posts: 3,905
Liked: 1 times
Rep Power: 918
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loz
Wonder what your views are on the death penalty andrew?
Do you support davies on this too?
How stupid to be against an extra 12 days detention for terroists but support hangings!
At least if innocent people are locked up they can get on with their lives afterwards.
Theres no going back if you kill an innocent person.
|
No I don't agree with the death penalty.
Davis has made it perfectly clear that he would not pursue this in parliament and has never made a speech on it. All he has done is answer when the question is asked, to which he says under extreme circumstance where there is no doubt at all, he supports the death penalty.
I can see the difference though, he is defending freedoms of innocent people, not guilty people.
__________________
formerly cyfr
|
|
|
14-07-2008, 23:00
|
#103
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: accrington
Posts: 838
Liked: 3 times
Rep Power: 47
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
How can you be 100% sure somebody is guilty though?
It is possible that somebody could be sentenced to death and be innocent.
There is no going back then.
__________________
Diesels' Wife!!
|
|
|
14-07-2008, 23:03
|
#104
|
God Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Accrington
Posts: 3,905
Liked: 1 times
Rep Power: 918
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loz
How can you be 100% sure somebody is guilty though?
It is possible that somebody could be sentenced to death and be innocent.
There is no going back then.
|
That's why I don't support it.
__________________
formerly cyfr
|
|
|
14-07-2008, 23:06
|
#105
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: accrington
Posts: 838
Liked: 3 times
Rep Power: 47
|
Re: Detention without charge poll
Yeah but you support somebody who does and have kicked up such a fuss about supporting him over the 42 day detention ruling.
Can't you see the hypocrisy?
__________________
Diesels' Wife!!
|
|
|
Other sites of interest.. |
More town sites.. |
|
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 15:03.
© 2003-2013 AccringtonWeb.com
|
|