Did Graham Jones do the right thing?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Garinda and the lap dogs have turned it into some massive poll of public opinion

Carry on.

You can call me all the names under the sun, if it makes you feel better.

Labelling the 41 members who voted in the poll as 'lap dogs', who voted that they want a referendum on the E.U., will win you no friends on here.

To back up the poll result, there have been posts made to support members' demands that we should be given a right to vote in a referendum, by people of all political pursuasion, and those who have no party political allegiance.

That's the reality of the situation.

To choose to ignore that fact, shows who really is the lap dog.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cashman

Funny Mancie, yeh made some daft comments in the early hours,but this must rank wi the daftest, unless of course yeh can provide evidence of a poll giving the opposite view? cos i sure as hell aint seen one.all the ones i have seen in media or tv,say exactly the same as the 50 on here.by the way using yer daft logic this wonderful government we got now has been elected by the same token.so come on show us yer not wrong provide the evidence.

Cashy, please don't hold your breath waiting for him to find the evidence to contradict what the rest of us poor lapdogs are saying.
Perhaps Mancie likes the thought of people coming in from the eastern bloc(and eventually Turkey...well, if the EU doesn't crash and burn first that is) and dipping their bread in his gravy......entitled to all benefits from day one, housing, health care...sending child benefit home to boost their economy...perhaps it soothes his poor old conscience to think that UK tax-payer can help these disadvantaged people. Yeah Right!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Cash, please don't hold your breath waiting for him to find the evidence to contradict what the rest of us poor lapdogs are saying.
Perhaps Mancie likes the thought of people coming in from the eastern bloc(and eventually Turkey...well, if the EU doesn't crash and burn first that is) and dipping their bread in his gravy......entitled to all benefits from day one, housing, health care...sending child benefit home to boost their economy...perhaps it soothes his poor old conscience to think that UK tax-payer can help these disadvantaged people. Yeah Right!

There are some people who think its right that GB plc be used as the doormat for the rest of the down and outs from other countries in Europe, who have sussed that our benefit system pays far more than the systems in their own countries, and whats more the unelected bureaucrats are saying the GB must pay these people through our benefit system, yet we aren't allowed a say in this because our politicians now best

[Margaret Pilkington]

John, our self serving politicians only think they know best.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

John, our self serving politicians only think they know best.

Ya that's why, over the last few years, after spending most of my life involved, I have become so disillusioned with politics and politicians. When I first entered into the political arena you became a councillor because you want to work for the people you lived amongst and whats more you didn't get paid, unless you had to miss work, which was very rare indeed. Now as we've seen over the last few years, its just how much can I make out of it, for the least effort, and don't forget the exes

[garinda]

Blimey just seen this.

Do you want your MP to uphold his election pledge to hold a referendum?

Yes ...... 22.....91.67%
No ......... 2.......8.33%

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...aty-37502.html

Perhaps Graham's getting a bit muddled.

This 91.67% might be where he's got his mythical '95% of people don't give a toss about Europe'.

Well he's nearly right.

91.67% is very nearly 95%.

[garinda]

'Last year, Mr Cameron promised to fight for a “cut or a freeze” in the 2011 EU budget, but was eventually forced to settle for a rise of 2.9 per cent, costing Britain another £450 million.'

'The additional payment would take Britain’s annual EU contribution to more than £10 billion in 2012, the equivalent of £400 for every household.'

'George Osborne, the Chancellor, accusing EU officials of having lost touch with reality.'

'Last night the Government refused to say what, if any, increase in Britain’s contributions ministers were prepared to accept, prompting charges that they would eventually “roll over” and agree to hand over more taxpayers’ money.'

David Cameron under pressure to block EU demand for £400 per British family - Telegraph





Can't imagine there are 95% of Hyndburn households who 'don't give a toss', according to Graham Jones, about coughing up an EXTRA £400 each next year, to send to our E.U. brethren.

[accyman]

there may not be an F in europe but we certainly need to get the F out of it

[mobertol]

Not clear if it's an additional sum taking the amount per family up to £400 or and extra £400 per family....?

[accyman]

not to worry by the time camerons cuts have put everyone out of work there wont be anyone to pay the euro bill so we may either get evicted or repossessed.

only kidding theres always money in the pot for other countries

[garinda]

Originally Posted by mobertol

Not clear if it's an additional sum taking the amount per family up to £400 or and extra £400 per family....?

What is clear is that we'll just bend over, and pay it...as usual.

[Alan Varrechia]

Yes but we'll do it in a proud stiff upper lipped way, with a nice strong cup of tea to take away the pain.

[Acrylic-bob]

Which may fall foul of EU packaging rules that tea may not be a painkiller, just as water may not hydrate.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

Which may fall foul of EU packaging rules that tea may not be a painkiller, just as water may not hydrate.

Tea is definitely diuretic -and everyone does seem to be Pee-ed off with this subject....

[garinda]

Originally Posted by mobertol

-and everyone does seem to be Pee-ed off with this subject....

Sadly, I'm afraid there's no end in sight.

Still, I always wanted a hobby, besides my European dolls and troll collection.