Did you know .....

shillelagh · 07-05-2009, 23:03

.... that when it comes to the NHS that Scotlands NHS is in a different country and they get more money ... we are in England NHS.

That is according to my consultant today when i asked him how come spuggie got to see an epilepsy nurse etc ..

My reply to him was we are all in Great Britain ... and he smiled.

by the way it is blogged ....

Mancie · 07-05-2009, 23:18

I think the fact is that in Scotland more is spent by the NHS per population..same as Northern Ireland.
It's something that makes me wonder that if Scotland was declared totally independant and reliant on thier own public spending..would thet have the resources to upkeep spending on education, welfare, and thier own NHS?

jaysay · 08-05-2009, 09:49

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Originally Posted by Mancie

I think the fact is that in Scotland more is spent by the NHS per population..same as Northern Ireland.
It's something that makes me wonder that if Scotland was declared totally independant and reliant on thier own public spending..would thet have the resources to upkeep spending on education, welfare, and thier own NHS?

Quite simply they wouldn't Mancie, that's what makes it so annoying to us lesser mortals living in England today

SPUGGIE J · 08-05-2009, 21:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Quite simply they wouldn't Mancie, that's what makes it so annoying to us lesser mortals living in England today

Ok on that basis what is the capital per head in England compared to Scotland and Northern Island? That is not just the NHS but all public spending.

Benipete · 08-05-2009, 22:08

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

Ok on that basis what is the capital per head in England compared to Scotland and Northern Island? That is not just the NHS but all public spending.

Google it,

accyman · 10-05-2009, 12:24

in wales everyone gets prescriptions free regardless of if you are working or not etc yet in England we hear of how people are left to die because they are denied life saving drugs because their area medical board wont let them have drugs they need

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From April 1st 2007 the NHS prescription charge was abolished for people in Wales.

Who is entitled to free prescriptions?
All patients registered with a Welsh GP, who get their prescriptions from a Welsh pharmacist, will be entitled to free prescriptions.

Welsh patients who have an English GP and who get their prescriptions from a Welsh pharmacist will still be entitled to free prescriptions. They will need to present their prescription with an accompanying entitlement card.

Along with free prescriptions, charges for wigs and appliances will also be abolished. Patients who receive these services from an English NHS Trust should have their costs met by their Local Health Board.

Along with free prescriptions, charges for wigs and appliances will be abolished.

NHS Wales - NHS Prescription Charges

Margaret Pilkington · 10-05-2009, 14:03

this is supposed to be the United Kingdom, yet stuff like this is what causes friction......prescription charges, parking charges at Hospitals, and the different charges for education.
It is time we were all treated alike.

SPUGGIE J · 10-05-2009, 18:24

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Originally Posted by Benipete

Google it,

Tried and got about as far as getting the answer to why is a toasting fork then wanting to do what the smillie is doing.

SPUGGIE J · 10-05-2009, 18:29

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

this is supposed to be the United Kingdom, yet stuff like this is what causes friction......prescription charges, parking charges at Hospitals, and the different charges for education.
It is time we were all treated alike.

True but does it not also show that the devolved parliments have a set of different priorities? Now that certain powers and the money for devolved govenments is no longer at Westminster then they cannot blame Westminster for anything that goes wrong. There will be good, bad, ugly and down right outragous actions done by all in the eyes of some but if what happens in the devolved parliments can edge coerse shame even shock Westminster into following suit then so be it.

Margaret Pilkington · 10-05-2009, 19:13

But where does the money come from?
It isn't raised purely from taxing the population of Scotland....if the Scottish Parliament had to make decisions about spending only what it could raise from its own population then I think things would be radically different.
It is an unfair distribution of resources.
(and this is not a slur against the Scottish people, just an observation of how devolution works unfairly against the English,whose taxes pay for the decisions made by a devolved government)

cmonstanley · 10-05-2009, 19:42

it does actually, the oil revenue more than pays for it.its just we get our priorities in the right order life comes first...

Royboy39 · 10-05-2009, 19:56

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

it does actually, the oil revenue more than pays for it.its just we get our priorities in the right order life comes first...

Can you tell us what amount the oil revenues generate and what the total of expenditure is forecast for the next twelve months for Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland.
I think if we are talking priorities then figures and the scource of those figures should be forthcoming then we are not second guessing and being mislead.

turkishdelight · 10-05-2009, 21:33

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Originally Posted by accyman

in wales everyone gets prescriptions free regardless of if you are working or not etc yet in England we hear of how people are left to die because they are denied life saving drugs because their area medical board wont let them have drugs they need

NHS Wales - NHS Prescription Charges

Is in not the case also that prescription charges have now been abolished in Scotland too. Car parking fee i think also was abolished in Wales.

MargaretR · 10-05-2009, 21:34

Instead of getting negative about the 'apparant injustice',
why not reason that they have more health problems in their population than we do, and so need that extra health provision,
and be glad that they have been given it.

Otherwise you resemble kids in the school yard who resent the fact that their mum has put fewer goodies in their lunch box than their mate's mum has.

cmonstanley · 10-05-2009, 21:40

since there is only 5 million in scotland and theres 8 million in london alone and england has 82% of the total population of britain,i think there is more oil revenue being spent in england than scotland.even more being spent in london than the full of scotland..