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Old 29-09-2006, 19:08   #61
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Re: DNA Sampling in Schools

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Hang on, we are talking about information, not little samples of DNA that the police can carry in their pockets and plop down at crime scenes to finger a suspect.
Very possible but is it going to happen with todays safeguards?
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Old 29-09-2006, 19:29   #62
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Re: DNA Sampling in Schools

What safeguards? Any parliament can remove anything any previous parliament put in place.
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Old 29-09-2006, 20:01   #63
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Re: DNA Sampling in Schools

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What safeguards? Any parliament can remove anything any previous parliament put in place.
Well there goes my faith in the law. Now who would remove it Westminster or The Europratts???
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Old 30-09-2006, 12:10   #64
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Cool Re: DNA Sampling in Schools

When I posted my last post #42 I had no intention of taking any further part in this thread but your jibe in your post #52 warrants a response garinda.

The last two sentences in my last post #42 Neil and garinda read:
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But I, and others who object to a DNA database, are equally entitled to utter their views on the issue and ne’er the two shall agree. Thus I would suggest that we agree to disagree.

There is no point in continuing garinda mainly because you asked, “Still waiting for a good example from one of you about how our civil liberties would be infringed?” and when Cyfr offered a reason which you accepted as an honest reason your response was, “In my book not a very valid reason, because you don't want it, but thanks for trying.” So no matter how valid a reason might be put forward you will always come back with a dismissal. You seem to be so entrenched in your own opinion that no one else’s matters, as far as you are concerned.

Let me also point out that you want a DNA database and you gave some reasons to back up your choice yet when Cyfr does exactly the same except to say that he doesn’t want a DNA database his opinion is dismissed by you. I wasn’t aware that we had to kow tow to your opinions. Tugs forelock and demonstrates that I can still draw a long bow with either hand.

As WillowTheWhisp (I got it right this time) declared, the police are not above planting evidence to secure a conviction and that is a real worry. In this day and age the police are under a lot of pressure to solve crimes and it must be tempting to bend the rules a bit to do so.

Having offered my opinion on this topic I see no point in repeating it over and over when I know that it will be met with a dismissal.

I repeat again – I agree to disagree but it seems some very self opinionated people do not want to and just want to bang the table.
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Old 30-09-2006, 13:44   #65
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Re: DNA Sampling in Schools

My rather curt reply to Cyfr's inital reason, that he didn't like it, was followed by an acknowledgment that he did give a valid reason with the cross contamination example. Although I still agree to disagree with him on the benefits a national DNA database would afford us.

(By the way although you are older than me, I don't think you are a suspect for being Jack the Ripper.)
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Old 30-09-2006, 14:51   #66
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Well there goes my faith in the law. Now who would remove it Westminster or The Europratts???
We handed power to europe through an act of parliament. If we wanted to we could get rid of that act and take back the power.

Though its good that any parliament can remove previous parliaments legislation, because if someone puts in some nutty legislation *cough poll tax* the next parliament can remove it if they wish to.
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Old 30-09-2006, 15:33   #67
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Its time we took some back. They wield too much power over us and just because somthing is good for France and Germany dosnt make it good for the UK or Spain. An example being the labour laws from Brussels.
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