Do the Scots REALLY want Independance? - Page 11

Michael1954 · 04-09-2014, 21:09

The way I look at is if the positions were reversed and we were governed by Scotland I would vote for independence.

Barrie Yates · 04-09-2014, 21:41

If Scotland do vote "Yes" then the Labour party lose all it's Scottish seats- would think that Cameron will be quietly supporting the "Yes" vote

Aussie Irene · 05-09-2014, 06:15

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Originally Posted by Eric

Oh ... and Celine Dionne.

Hubby will take Celine off your hands Eric, but as far as i am concerned, you can give Bieber to Scotland, or anyone else for that matter

Wynonie Harris · 05-09-2014, 11:35

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

If Scotland do vote "Yes" then the Labour party lose all it's Scottish seats- would think that Cameron will be quietly supporting the "Yes" vote

Would think that's why Milliband's suddenly woken up and is frantically campaigning for the "No" vote. He knows only too well that independence for the Jocks means Labour will never achieve power in the residual UK again.

Accyexplorer · 05-09-2014, 12:43

Neil · 05-09-2014, 15:07

I am hoping for a yes now, let them all do one back to Scotland if they hate being part of the UK so much.

Interesting though that Lloyd's parent company to Royal Bank of Scotland are planning on moving their headquarters from Edinburgh to London if Scotland goes independent according to something I read in the FT the other day. Other big companies are planning on doing the same as well.

accyman · 05-09-2014, 21:52

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Originally Posted by Neil

I am hoping for a yes now, let them all do one back to Scotland if they hate being part of the UK so much.

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i just hope that part of teh deal isnt that we keep on funding tehir medical bills

its an insult that no one pays for prescriptions as it is yet we have to and it would be even more of a spit in our faces if we have to continue this unfair arrangement

lol the methodone bill will bankrupt scotland in a week if we loose the burden of their medical expenses

Lucysgirl · 05-09-2014, 23:31

My late father was a Scot and when I saw there was a webpage for a "sensible debate" on Facebook, I thought it would consist of the undecided and those who had already decided all having a calm conflab of the many pros and cons.

I got a rude awakening

For the word "Westminster" read "Hate"

DaveinGermany · 06-09-2014, 09:40

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Originally Posted by Lucysgirl

For the word "Westminster" read "Hate"

Think you'll find it's not just the Jockeens, that have a rather severe reaction to Westminster & its Muppets.

Gremlin · 06-09-2014, 10:55

I have a few good mates who live in Scotland, one in Glasgow, one Lockerbie and others scattered about the place.
My great grandfather came down from Campbeltown, Mull of Kyntyre and is back buried there with his ancestors. I have visited the grave and there are a lot of Taylors there.
Even so I found that when I was delivering to Scottish companies the staff there hated the English, different in the tourist spots where they wanted your money.
Example was at Pumpherston when I went into the cabin to brew up, my own tea bag by the way, black looks all round, then a Scottish driver came in and asked to brew up and they said "If the English B*****d can I'm sure you can"

My Scottish friends are all against Scotland going independant.
One sent the following today..
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So Salmond says to the Queen, when we win will you call us a principality and then you can call me Prince?

No says madam, OK you could call me a kingdom and then call me King, No says Madam.

What then says Salmon, Madam replied "we should call it a country and then call you a !!!!"

accyman · 06-09-2014, 12:05

when the scottish have finally had their say is it our turn ?

seems to be a lot of freedom of choice going around im just wondwering when we get our turn

cashman · 06-09-2014, 12:23

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Originally Posted by accyman

when the scottish have finally had their say is it our turn ?

seems to be a lot of freedom of choice going around im just wondwering when we get our turn

Dream on accyman,it aint NEVER gonna happen.

Eric · 06-09-2014, 16:46

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Originally Posted by accyman

when the scottish have finally had their say is it our turn ?

seems to be a lot of freedom of choice going around im just wondwering when we get our turn

An independent Lancashire ... now there's an idea.

Lucysgirl · 07-09-2014, 03:53

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Originally Posted by Eric

An independent Lancashire ... now there's an idea.

I can envisage quite a bit of fun untangling all the 1974 boundary changes and maybe some earlier ones that I don't know about. Lancashire would grow a fair size wouldn't it when you reclaim the bits from Cumbria and Yorkshire. Would Liverpool and Manchester want to divest themselves of the important roles they've grown for themselves?

Gordon Booth · 07-09-2014, 13:38

The 'No' campaign, as far as we have seen on this side of the border, has been pathetic, laughable. Darlings performance in the last debate was so weak it was embarrassing. Salmond has been allowed to get away with murder when there should have been so many strong arguments against him.
The £, the PM,deputy PM, leader of the opposition all say ' No UK pound'-which bit of 'No' doesn't he understand.
The EU- will Spain let Scotland in when it will encourage the Catalans and Basques in their campaign?
If they did join the EU they'd have to sign the Schengen Agreement-immigrants could travel there from Europe without any checks, they'd flood in and Border checks couldn't stop them crossing into England, they'd just walk across the moors and fields.
The UK government opened up many Civil Service offices up there to create jobs and mollify the Scots- those offices would have to move back to England.
You can go on( I just did!). So much has not really been aired properly.

But just supposing you were a party only hanging onto power by tying up with a minority party you hated, knowing you might lose the next election to the main opposition. Knowing 41 of that oppositions MPs might soon be in a foreign country, not able to join in your Parliament. What a tempting thought- you'd loose 8 million people(who never vote for you anyway) but you'd be almost guaranteed a majority in the wreck that was left-forever.
You'd have to make all the right noises of course( but not too loudly) and just sit back and wait. After all, every cloud has a silver lining.
It couldn't happen, of course. No Party would do that.
Would it?