dont beleive the hype! - Page 2

cashman · 04-10-2006, 23:00

everyones entitled to an opinion, as i am entitled not to completly read all that,its fine having a point,but you do go on.

AccyJay · 04-10-2006, 23:08

When i was 16, a girl i went to school with took her own life by way of a heroin overdose. She was a friend & nieghbour. At the age of 19, one of my best friends was stabbed to death by a drug addict. Both of these people were supplied by an "average" dealers.

I hope this so called "average" dealer rots in jail.

If you think this is a harsh response, then visit my DEAD friends, parents.

This is the first time i've given negative karma, & yes i signed it.

Madhatter · 04-10-2006, 23:49

It's a shame I've given out too much, because there are some comments on here that deserve positive.

AccyJay · 04-10-2006, 23:57

On this thread, or, in the initial post?

Bazf · 05-10-2006, 00:42

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Originally Posted by AccyJay

On this thread, or, in the initial post?

I don't think anyone could find anything was positive about the inital post, unless your a drug dealing scum bag.

Madhatter · 05-10-2006, 00:44

Jay have you read my previous comments? The initial post has been given negative, something I rarely do but I feel so strong on this for very obvious reasons given in my previous post. I dunno which is worse the texts saying she's just bought some and begging for help or the silence inbetween.

. Do I go up there and risk loosing my job and flat here knowing he'll just get her straight back on it or do I leave her till she loses the kids and that makes her help herself. Thats assuming she's alive to do that.
All this is very insignificant though compared to an average dealer being locked up away from his family isn't it

WillowTheWhisp · 05-10-2006, 00:47

No it's very relevant because that is just the sort of angush that this so-called average dealer deals out to people.

AccyJay · 05-10-2006, 00:52

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Originally Posted by Madhatter

Jay have you read my previous comments? The initial post has been given negative, something I rarely do but I feel so strong on this for very obvious reasons given in my previous post. I dunno which is worse the texts saying she's just bought some and begging for help or the silence inbetween.

. Do I go up there and risk loosing my job and flat here knowing he'll just get her straight back on it or do I leave her till she loses the kids and that makes her help herself. Thats assuming she's alive to do that.
All this is very insignificant though compared to an average dealer being locked up away from his family isn't it

Sorry, i've just read your post again. I'm a little tired, but i realise what you mean.

Madhatter · 05-10-2006, 01:08

positive for you jay n baz, willow,gayle,westender,.... decent people who can see what they're doing.

the real michael · 05-10-2006, 03:50

BIG DEAL ACCY J........ i have lost loads of friends to drugs.... its obvious you
are a child with a mentality of a beleif that everyone should be denied the right to explore a world were one of your so called freinds died .... you cant blame drugs for the loss of your freind...blame your freind...alcohol is far worse in reality... causes adultery-murder..... leah betts death is down to
leah betts... so was your freinds death, its the risk you take when you indulge
in such stuff....... when(untaxed) drugs were legal the quality was regulated
as such that a single dose was precise as to the strength that it was virtually
impossible to die from overdose as the chemist would give you only enough
pure substance to experience the "trip" but not be at all fatal..... unfortunately due to government making more money making it illegal, the quality cannot be assured , hence sometimes it may be pure and uncut, causing heart failure on most recipients who are used to impure cut drugs...
just because it killed your freind (it has killed many of mine) doesnt give you
the right to deny humanity from using it does it? for you to judge through
the mistakes of others doesnt make you intelligent or wise.... some day you
may be taking drugs (whether n.h.s. prescribed or illegal, its all the same)...
the worse thing is that people can turn on you and call you a hypocrite...
dont judge the situation until you are at least 45 yrs old,

the real michael · 05-10-2006, 04:14

your all obviously stuck in an unreal world were you expect too much....
even pensioners take viagra (DRUGS) where do you all exist? a child of 6
can understand what i say, yet accrington folk still harp on as if drugs have
never been used in this town? failure to accept the truth always ends in
disaster...............some of you reading this may never want to consume
drugs not approved by government.....maybe cus your too scared of the consequences of waking up, 90% of the populus are conformist sheep who
will always depend on idiots who,s views are designed to limit the independance of the person who listens to them, such as the churches....
if you or your idiot freinds cant handle drugs then simply DONT BUY THEM...
are you totally moronic???? YOUR FREIND CHOSE TO BUY DRUGS....
dont blame the dealer for your idiot freinds demise, blame your freind for buying drugs, you are as stupid as your freind who died...FULL STOP....
until this world ends there will always be dealers....AND USERS.... are you
a child? a dealer provides a SERVICE, a buyer sets a DEMAND, your freind was never forced to consume, neither was the dealer forced to sell, you miss
the wisdom of your point...... so come back in 30 yrs ....if your not an addict by then....

lettie · 05-10-2006, 08:37

Honestly RM.... You don't half spout a load of bull***t. A drug dealer is a drug dealer...end of. I am glad that this average dealer is off the streets. If he misses his kids and is unable to now be a good father due to his enforced absence then tough........he's brought it on himself.

The newspapers will use titles such as 'Drug Baron' for no other reason than to sell papers. We are not naive and are all aware of why they do this.

There are many different reasons why people start to use drugs. Most of them are to do with personal choice but.... some of them boil down to circumstance, availability and peers. A large percentage of addictions are down to dealers who will supply substances such as cannabis and cut a little something extra with it so that a person becomes addicted. Crack and heroin have both been promoted in this way by your average dealer. I know several local drug workers who will vouch for this. I have also drug tested young lasses who swear that they only take cannabis and have found a plenitude of other illicit substances.

Your defence of your average dealer mate is senseless. In many of your posts you stoop to insulting the people who don't agree with you. You obviously have a modicum of intelligence. Why don't you begin to use it?

Less · 05-10-2006, 10:05

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Originally Posted by Bazf

I don't think anyone could find anything was positive about the inital post, unless your a drug dealing scum bag.

Wrong Bazf, I found something positive about it, it did eventually end.

WillowTheWhisp · 05-10-2006, 10:18

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Originally Posted by the real michael

failure to accept the truth always ends in
disaster...............

Something you said about losing everyone you loved when you were a child and having your cries for help ignored or laughed at made me think that perhaps that is really what we have here - cries for help. If you perhaps resent being 'dumped' in Accrington as a child then it's in your hands now to be able to move away from here if you wish. Perhaps you need to sort out the unresolved issues of your past first though and get some professional help to do so.

The post where you said those things has unfortunately been removed due to other content, but I was touched by them and could possibly see where you are coming from with the other things that you've posted. Other people may have been responsible for what happened to you as a child but you are an adult now and responsible for yourself. You can take control of your own life and do with it what you will.

garinda · 05-10-2006, 10:44

Are you still here talking sh*te?

I'd have at least expected tou to be on the roof of BBC Centre by now.

Poor show.

Perhaps if we were all in K-hole we could imagine you there bring more proactive in your protests.