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Old 06-07-2008, 21:16   #286
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Re: Don't bug me teacher, eating me breakfast.

Personally I do not give a tuppenny toss whether this teacher was overstepping her terms of employment of working hours.. like Gayle has said between her and her employer. She bloody cared, that's all I can see !!

Repeating myself I know, but as a parent, would have gone in the shop, like a banshee, getting any child of mine out of that shop and their mates to get them to school ... headline would have read "Fury as parent bursts into cafe". Not quite get the same ring to it has it ? Would not have had any space in the Observer then, would it ?!? At least the Headmaster has added his comments on the matter (have you actually read it Jambutty ?)

As for us middle-aged women spending time on Accyweb Blazey .. what you like ? I am old-aged now ... have spent the last 45 years getting up at 6.00 a.m. to get kids off to school on time with a good breakfast in their bellies, before I had to travel most of the time 30 miles to work, 300 miles minimum when on the road, never been late, except in unusual circumstances ... feel can indulge myself a little now... .. aplogies for being self-indulgent and personalising.
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Old 06-07-2008, 21:17   #287
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Because being late isn't part of law, but people seem to be mentioning reporting crimes and all sorts of rubbish.
Maybe being late for school isn't actually illegal, to be honest, I don't know whether it is or not.

However, common sense and good morals would tell us that it is wrong.

Things like having a big green coloured stripe through your hair, having a pierced lip and wearing jeans aren't illegal but most people wouldn't do these things then turn up at school and not expect the teacher to tell them off for it.

The teacher would probably tell them to go home and come back without green hair / pierced lip / jeans.

The end result schools are aiming for is that the children find employment when they leave school. This is why they do not tolerate traits that an employer would not tolerate.

Persistent lateness is one such trait.
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Old 06-07-2008, 21:21   #288
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West Ender, I'm not being stupid, because I broke the rules and I'm doing very well for myself, better than most people my age in Accrington. What on earth would I be ashamed about even if I was the same age as Jambutty?

If you advocate breaking rules you are in the wrong. You may be "doing very well" for yourself, you are certainly way ahead in the conceit department, but boasting that you flouted your school's rules is, as they say, neither big nor clever.
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Old 06-07-2008, 21:25   #289
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and to say you are studying law too, isnt wagging school against the law?
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Old 06-07-2008, 21:25   #290
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If I was the village idiot I would probably be in the Black Dog right now getting wasted and doing karaoke. Instead I am doing research, in my summer holidays, because whilst I didn't turn up to school on time I still learned the value of education, which is more than can be said for most of the youth in this village.

If that makes me an idiot then so be it.
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Old 06-07-2008, 21:26   #291
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As far as I know there is no law against being the village idiot - so carry on
Wrong on two counts. Again!

This is not a village and blazey is not an idiot.
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Old 06-07-2008, 21:28   #292
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Things like having a big green coloured stripe through your hair, having a pierced lip and wearing jeans aren't illegal but most people wouldn't do these things then turn up at school and not expect the teacher to tell them off for it.
I had my lip pierced.

I dyed my hair 'little mermaid' red.

I did all the usual school girl things like wearing makeup and rolling my skirt up past my knees.

Yes I got in trouble, yes I was 'punished', yes I got a decent education regardless. At this stage of my education I laugh, because people always regret that they tried so hard then they get to uni and it doesnt matter anymore. I laugh because I had a great time, did what I had to do and I have no regrets.

I'm not going to feel bad for it, so why don't you all just go back to topic, because the teacher was in the wrong, if you can't see that then what can I do about that?
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Old 06-07-2008, 21:29   #293
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[quote=blazey;603107]Also, as far as I am concerned I wish that the chavs didn't turn up for school so then maybe I would've got the individual help I need, perhaps then it would've been worthwhile going.

Nevertheless, I passed all my GCSE's without a problem even though I had the 3rd worst attendance in the year, so it's not even my concern anymore. /quote]

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Old 06-07-2008, 21:31   #294
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The only way to prove it is to make the same mistake again that I made 36 years ago.And though unlike you I have made mistakes in my life I don't make the same one twice.
No! The way to prove it is to produce evidence like a link to the laws of the land.

You’re the one spouting your mouth off so prove your allegation.
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Old 06-07-2008, 21:32   #295
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I had my lip pierced.



I'm not going to feel bad for it, so why don't you all just go back to topic, because the teacher was in the wrong, if you can't see that then what can I do about that?
That's the split between us Blazey, we cannot see that this teacher was in the wrong at all.
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Old 06-07-2008, 21:33   #296
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I'm not going to feel bad for it, so why don't you all just go back to topic,

The questions in the first post were ;

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What were they doing there at this time anyway ? Did their parents not give them a decent breakfast ?

If you were the parent, and caught your child in a cafe, and knowing they would be late for school, not done exactly the same thing and dragged them out by their ear ?
It seems the ones discussing if the teacher is right or wrong are the ones who have gone off topic, it wasn't one of the questions asked
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Old 06-07-2008, 21:34   #297
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If I was the village idiot I would probably be in the Black Dog right now getting wasted and doing karaoke. Instead I am doing research, in my summer holidays, because whilst I didn't turn up to school on time I still learned the value of education, which is more than can be said for most of the youth in this village.

If that makes me an idiot then so be it.
Ok so you're at uni now and hopefully doing well with your studies but surely you don't advocate children being late for school just because you were.....can you not see that it is better to be on time?

A 15 year old who gets pregnant may end up doing well for herself years down the line but surely would not say things that give the impression to other 15 year olds that becoming a mum at 15 is a good idea.

She would try to discourage others from doing that because she knows it is better not to be a mum at 15.
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Old 06-07-2008, 21:39   #298
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Ok so you're at uni now and hopefully doing well with your studies but surely you don't advocate children being late for school just because you were.....can you not see that it is better to be on time?

A 15 year old who gets pregnant may end up doing well for herself years down the line but surely would not say things that give the impression to other 15 year olds that becoming a mum at 15 is a good idea.

She would try to discourage others from doing that because she knows it is better not to be a mum at 15.
To be quite frank, it isn't my place to tell anyone what to do with their lives. I can guide, and indeed I wouldn't recommend purposefully being late, but if people want to then that is their choice.

I preach about consequences 24hrs a day to people. I tell my friends that if they don't do their work before socialising or if they don't start thinking about the future now then they'll have to deal with the consequences of that, but I can't do much more.

Freedom of choice and all that I guess. You can't be perfect, and if you were then how could you ever learn anything anyway?
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Old 06-07-2008, 21:42   #299
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Also, as far as I am concerned I wish that the chavs didn't turn up for school so then maybe I would've got the individual help I need, perhaps then it would've been worthwhile going.

Nevertheless, I passed all my GCSE's without a problem even though I had the 3rd worst attendance in the year, so it's not even my concern anymore. /quote]

If your CV turned up on my desk I would mark in bold letters 'Attitude Preoblem.......File Thirteen'
I don't think I'd be that desperate for a job anyway
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Old 06-07-2008, 21:44   #300
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If I was the village idiot I would probably be in the Black Dog right now getting wasted and doing karaoke. Instead I am doing research, in my summer holidays, because whilst I didn't turn up to school on time I still learned the value of education, which is more than can be said for most of the youth in this village.

If that makes me an idiot then so be it.
What the hell makes you think you are so much better than anybody else?
You go about insulting people constantly,we aren't all middle aged by the way,i'm 24 but choose to come on here as often as possible because i enjoy it not because i have nothing better to do.
You should be more respectful towards people.
Not everybody went to college or uni,myself included,but i work hard and am no less a person because of it.
You really have no idea about the real world do you,and thats coming from somebody not much older than you.
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